Yes! I hope he'd be happy to defy words. I always get a kick out of seeing
his stuff that's exactly the same as the kick I get from the poetry I like,
and I find this confusing and indescribable!
On 20 February 2014 10:58, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks for reminding me of Cy Twombly - an artist I am always intrigued
> with yet haven't the artistic lingo to discuss. I simply sit and wonder. I
> blogged a Twombly piece and a Berger quote in recognition.
>
>
> On 20 February 2014 13:16, Nathan Hondros <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > This made me think more along the lines of Frank O'Hara and his attempt
> in
> > poems like Second Avenue to write like the abstract expressionists were
> > painting, that is an attempt at scale and a consequential attack on
> > figuration (so that the abstraction was not a distorted interpretation of
> > visual reality, but was something big and bold enough to exist in its own
> > right). If you know Second Avenue, you can wonder, along with me, how
> well
> > he did..."rather less successfully"...but as Ashbery says about it, "The
> > poem is the chronicle of the creative act that produces it."
> >
> > Then there are those who go the other way around, the painters who use
> > words/writing like poets would. Cy Twombly is interesting because he is
> > often about writing: http://www.cytwombly.info/twombly_writings1.htm.
> "The
> > painter/used his paint/in the manner/Patrick McManus/used to write..."?!
> >
> >
> > On 20 February 2014 08:00, Sheila Murphy <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > As one immersed in visual poetry, I must begin by saying that Peter C
> is
> > a
> > > unique and brilliant force in the arena. There are many very fine ones
> > you
> > > may wish to check out.
> > >
> > > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/article/182397
> > > Here is one place to start, but there are many others, and once you get
> > > into this, you'll never get out :) (yours truly was featured there in a
> > > collaboration with K.S. Ernst),
> > >
> > > A terrific anthology that followed is utterly scrumptious. Nico
> > Vassilakis
> > > and Crag Hill edited masterfully this volume
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Vispo-Anthology-1998-2008/dp/1606996266
> > > (I served with several others as contributing editor and have some work
> > > herein).
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Barry Alpert <
> [log in to unmask]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > P,
> > > >
> > > > I can't think of other visual poets whose work seems particularly
> > similar
> > > > to that published by Peter Ciccariello, but I don't claim to be a
> > > thorough
> > > > scholar in that field.
> > > >
> > > > I do wonder whether there's a visual artist who has studied the
> > > > documentary footage of Pollock painting and has deliberately tried to
> > > > extrapolate directly from just that process of composition.
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:14:21 -0000, Patrick McManus <
> > > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Barry thanks you are right cheers P any suggestions re names of
> visual
> > > > poets like Peter Ciccariello? cheers P
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Barry Alpert
> > > > >Sent: 19 February 2014 15:50
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: pat snap 614 """""""""""""""""""""""
> > > > >
> > > > >Patrick,
> > > > >
> > > > >Couldn't "as" be edited out without loss?
> > > > >
> > > > >I wonder which poets we could name might derive precisely from
> > Pollock's
> > > > process of composition?
> > > > >
> > > > >Barry
> > > > >
> > > > >On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:36:12 -0000, Patrick McManus <
> > > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>POET
> > > > >>
> > > > >>the poet
> > > > >>used his words
> > > > >>in the manner as
> > > > >>Jackson Pollock
> > > > >>used to paint
> > > > >>but rather less
> > > > >>successfully
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>pmcmanus
> > > > >>r465
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
> 'Undercover of Lightness'
> http://walleahpress.com.au/recent-publications.html
> 'Shikibu Shuffle'
>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/new-from-aboveground-press-shikibu.html
>
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