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Re: What to tell non-cataloguing staff about RDA?

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"Jackie Johnson (Library Services)" <[log in to unmask]>

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Jackie Johnson (Library Services)

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I'm in the middle of preparing a session for non-cataloguing staff and trying to explain FRBR and WEMI poses a particular problem and has taken me ages to try and prepare. I've simplified it as much as I can with humorous pictures and am just hoping I can get it across!  



Jackie





Jackie Johnson                    

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-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clifford, Katrina M

Sent: 13 January 2014 12:26

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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] What to tell non-cataloguing staff about RDA?



I was going to pick this up this afternoon, but I may as well do it now.



When we first thought about moving to RDA (but before the date was set) I did an 'awareness' presentation to other teams on a 'sign up if you're interested' basis. I was really pleased with how many people did. However, I found that introducing FRBR, even briefly, muddied the waters as some staff thought that when we moved to RDA, the catalogue would instantly be able to FRBRise *everything*, which is totally not the case. The things like the dropping the rule of 3, however, they could really see the use of that.



When we did move to RDA, my colleague ran sessions on 'RDA : what you need to know'. She simplified it a lot and really only told them these are the changes you'll see, it's important we change as in the future it’ll be a good thing.... etc... I'm oversimplifying it perhaps, but it hit the nail on the head far better than what I did! It was useful too as it gave the teams a chance to ask any questions they had about cataloguing while she was there. These presentations are still being done as we only hold team briefings once a fortnight and getting space and time to present to each team in turn has taken longer but that's fine.



Katrina



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-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kate Kluttz

Sent: 13 January 2014 12:06

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Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] What to tell non-cataloguing staff about RDA?



I'm really interested in this one, too, as it's just started sinking in that I probably need to provide something to our non-cat staff.  So far I've only been able to come up with:

        *Very basic introduction to FRBR concepts

        *Very brief history of the development of RDA/why we are adopting

        *Details on AACR2 v RDA changes they may notice in the catalogue, like spelled-out abbreviations, and new fields like 33X (we don't display those in the OPAC but staff can see them in the staff module)

        *ummmmmm ... not sure what else. I'd like to get into a little bit about relationships and why RDA is better in that respect, but I'm not sure that a) I can explain this, or b) our system can actually do anything with this yet.  Maybe I can use someone else's system to demonstrate??





Kate Kluttz

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University of the Arts London Library Services

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-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicky Ransom

Sent: 13 January 2014 11:57

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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Who was/is involved in the decision/preparation? Did you have to justify it to senior managers



I'm interested in the point that Katrina mentioned - how much to keep other non-cataloguing staff up to date with RDA. I've mentioned it briefly at department meetings, but I am not sure exactly what other information they might *need* to know (as against a general awareness). I'd be interested to hear what others have shared with non-cataloguing staff.



Nicky



-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clifford, Katrina M

Sent: 13 January 2014 11:20

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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Who was/is involved in the decision/preparation? Did you have to justify it to senior managers



Myself and my boss raised RDA at a departmental meeting fairly early on, before we even had a date to move. It was all built into our strategic planning for the team and the wider department, with the need for time and money for training accepted as necessary.



In terms of planning I'd say myself and the head of Collections worked closely on it, involving the systems staff where needed. We kept RDA as a running item on our team planning meetings to keep the rest of the team up to date.



Katrina



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-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Williams

Sent: 13 January 2014 11:01

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Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Who was/is involved in the decision/preparation? Did you have to justify it to senior managers



Sorry, I'm re-sending this with the question in the subject field so that it's easier to follow.

Helen



-----Original Message-----

From: Williams,HK

Sent: 13 January 2014 11:00

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Subject: RE: RDA at Wellcome



Thanks June



You mentioning needing the approval of Senior Management leads nicely into another question for our session this morning, which is Who was involved in the decision/preparation for implementing RDA?

Did you have to 'justify' it to senior managers?



A few people have already mentioned that the cost of the toolkit has been a prohibitive factor, and this follows on from that a bit as well.



Helen



-----Original Message-----

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tomlinson, June

Sent: 13 January 2014 10:33

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Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] RDA at Wellcome



Good morning everyone.



At Wellcome we have been downloading RDA records for a while but haven't yet done any original cataloguing in RDA. Where records are available as either AACR2 or RDA we would take the RDA record but if the AACR2 one looks better we would take that instead. We don't convert AACR2 records to RDA.



I had planned to implement RDA fully this Spring but the preparation is proving to be quite overwhelming as we have so many other projects going on. I also have to get the approval of our Senior Management Team before anything can, officially, happen.



June





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