And in response to Patrick's original question, there certainly are aboriginal poets, & quite a lot of poetry that engages various questions/problems surrounding the continuing situation...
Doug
On Dec 22, 2013, at 5:01 AM, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> All very strange. I suppose a film like Utopia is intended to be 'present'
> for some time.
>
> Have you see the article in today's Guardian/Observer about Happiness
> Island and the involvement of the Louvre, the Guggenheim and even the
> British Museum?
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/22/abu-dhabi-migrant-workers-conditions-shame-west
>
> best
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 22 December 2013 10:56, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> yes, and the media here have holiday quiet in Canberra to permit something
>> like
>> Pilger to 'blow up'.
>>
>> On 22/12/2013, at 9:51 PM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry I got the timeline confused by the tenses being used - Utopia was
>>> previewed here in late Sept and went on general release in mid-November.
>> I
>>> thought the conversation was about something just happening here. Is it
>> not
>>> likely, Max, that the timing of the showings around Australia Day is
>> meant
>>> to underline the film's 'message'?
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> db
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 December 2013 09:48, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know much about the policies of general release there are at
>> least
>>>> screenings in the main Aus cities next month though:
>>>> http://utopiajohnpilger.co.uk/showings
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 December 2013 08:55, Patrick McManus <
>> [log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Max thanks -The film release It does all seem a bit odd especially as
>> here
>>>>> we have hardly an unblemished record!!!
>>>>> Cheers P old grumper
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Max Richards
>>>>> Sent: 21 December 2013 20:59
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Utopia
>>>>>
>>>>> Australians will have to wait three months before they are allowed to
>>>>> watch
>>>>> it. By the time Utopia is released here next Australia Day, it will
>> have
>>>>> already screened on free-to-air British TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is is hardly unreasonable to expect a film that asks such enormous
>>>>> questions
>>>>> of Australia to open on our shores at the same time it does in Britain.
>>>>> Pilger and his producers seem essentially to be saying: "Australia,
>> we've
>>>>> got something awfully important to tell you. But you're not allowed to
>>>>> join
>>>>> the conversation just yet."
>>>>>
>>>>> More than the head-scratching release strategy, is London really the
>> best
>>>>> place to start a debate about Indigenous equality in Australia?
>> Utopia's
>>>>> cinematic premiere, held in a place far removed from its eponymous
>> region,
>>>>> seems - well - rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/nov/12/john-pilgers-utopia
>>>>>
>>>>> Australia Day - late Jan is when most of Australia is at the beach or
>>>>> watching the tennis all hours on tv.
>>>>>
>>>>> so we shall see how Pilger fares here...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/12/2013, at 5:27 AM, Patrick McManus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all esp Oz folk has there been reaction in the poetry community to
>>>>>> John Pilger's 'Utopia' a film dealing with the continued treatment of
>>>>>> the first
>>>>>> nation- there must be poetry around the situation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is poetry in an ivory tower?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Joseph Bircumshaw
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>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Joseph Bircumshaw
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> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
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>
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