Tricaa's point is well made, so to rephrase Pippa's suggestion, perhaps we should take a firmer line in negotiations?
In Mendeley, sharing of full text is only possible in two ways, firstly in the My Publications section, and Mendeley clearly remind authors that they should only do so if they are permitted to self-archive, and secondly in private groups. Mendeley, now owned by Elsevier, say that the latter is covered by fair dealing. I don't quite see this, but the argument runs that the full text is only visible to group members, and private groups are very small: limited to three people if you use the basic Mendeley.
As far as I know, this has yet to be tested in a British, European or US court, or indeed in any other jurisdiction.
Tom


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Pippa

It's not copyright legislation but contract law. Updating copyright legislation would have no impact on those resources purchased from a publisher or aggregator as you sign a contract/agreement with them. The conditions are negotiable but are bound by contract law.

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Hi David,

I have exactly the same problem when supporting staff groups in one trust who want to set up shared sites on Sharepoint.

Saving full text articles etc. is fine for those open access on the internet but not for those we need an Athens password for or that are protected by other subscription arrangements.

This barrier to knowledge sharing is not keeping up with current communication technologies and potentially impacts the delivery of evidence based practices and shared learning across teams.

Would it be possible to influence an update of this area of copyright regulation?


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Dear colleagues,

I have searched the Lis-Medical archives for discussions related to reference management software like Zotero and Mendeley.

I found some useful discussion about how popular these (and other) reference managers are.


But my concern is around Copyright.


Personally I have been using both Zotero and Mendeley, mainly out of convenience...  The main convenience being that they are both free to use (unless you want to increase your online storage and 'Group' sizes)

I use both because:
- I want to become familiar with more than one application
- I try to remain somewhat impartial if/whenever library users ask about reference management software


Now, I've come to realise that these reference managers have some very useful features.

- Both ref managers allow you to store your collected materials - journal articles - in the 'Cloud'.  These means you can access and read your materials from wherever you have an internet connection.

- Both provide the user with an option to create groups to collaborate and share their references.

Isn't that clever?  Like minded groups can share links to research and publications they have found useful.  Fantastic.

(I wonder if any of you use this feature as a library?)


But there's more - these reference management sites/tools also provide users/groups the opportunity to share PDF copies of journal articles too.  So, effectively, I can give you access to articles I have uploaded and stored in my cloud and visa-versa.

Okay so, library head off for a moment...  Student head on. (Worzel Gummidge style) I think this is fantastic.  As a students/researchers you and I can get access to articles that we might otherwise have to request from our library or pay for.




With Library head back on again - here's my niggling doubts and questions...

Am I breaching any terms of copyright by sharing articles in this way?

Perhaps not - if the article was freely accessible on the internet anyway (assuming it hadn't been put there by doctors/medical students for a poster presentation.

But what if the article was otherwise protected - something I (or my library) had purchased access to?


I'd be interested to hear (read) your thoughts on this.


Best regards,

David Cleland

Knowledge Services Administrator
Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust





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