Hi Pooneh, yes, got that. Above-board training providers and centres usually carry out initial assessments first anyway and examining boards do have requirements that centres should meet in order to maintain their agreement. It's the ones who are carrying out malpractice that fall off the radar :)
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From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pooneh Joharchi
Sent: 10 December 2013 14:14
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Subject: Re: ESOL Exam for immigration purposes
Dear Angela,
Sorry for cross posting, my pervious Email has been sent incomplete.
Regarding the evidence of learning I'd like to mention that the candidates who wants to take the exam in Entry 3 level should be able to produce a proof that they have some English knowledge in order to take Entry 3 exam, but when the candidate is really weak in English and dose not have enough knowledge to pass the E 3 exam they must attend at least 6 full day classes.
But due to freedom that training centres have ,they solely release the exam information for the candidate to enable them to sit in the exam. Moreover the files which should be completed by the candidates during those 6 days is being completed by the centre.
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> On 10 Dec 2013, at 13:58, Pooneh Joharchi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Dear Angela,
>
> Regarding the evidence of learning I'd like to mention that the candidates who wants to take the exam in Entry 3 level should be able to produce a proof that they have some English knowledge in order to take Entry 3 exam, but when the candidate is really weak in English and dose not have enough knowledge to pass the E 3 exam they must attend at least 6 full day classes.
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 10 Dec 2013, at 13:37, Angela Keenan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Hello Pooney,
>>
>> Last year Ofqual, requested that awarding organisations delivering ESOL International and Skills for Life qualifications, regularly meet through FAB (Federation of Awarding Bodies) for a number of reasons, one being to improve the elimination of the problem you have mentioned above.
>>
>> The problem that you have stated directly relates the evidence of English Language competency that candidates need in order to apply for settlement, citizenship, study or spouse visas. This is in addition to those learners (not candidates) who generally want to progress their level.
>>
>> You will remember last year the attempted contrived 'consultation' process that Ofqual subjected the sector to with very few changes being made as a result of steadfast commitment from our fellow forum members. My understanding of this was that there were two underlying reasons for the consultation. The first being that the current SFL qualification was not fit for purpose for those who need it only for immigration purposes and the second was to attempt a shift towards external assessment (as it is understood, although not 100% correct, that the main area of malpractice appears to be with internal assessment).
>>
>> I absolutely agree with your point above, that there are many, many private training providers that pop up from nowhere, have candidates impart with 8-fold the price of a qualification, who then in some cases don't even sit the exam, for the candidate to then go to the Home Office to produce a certificate that reflects their supposed level of English. I have heard an array of stories ranging from students receiving certificates from examining boards that offer external assessments to students giving 'secret coding' over sweet shop counters to receive a certificate .... all WITHOUT sitting the exam.
>>
>> To impact on this - ASIC accreditation is no longer mandatory (took effect from 28th October 2013) resulting in any training provider being able to offer qualifications, without ASIC accreditation.
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>> Choosing my words carefully, in a word, Ofqual do not offer guidance on this matter and when issues have been raised with The Home Office the response is, what I would term as, inadequate.
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>> Comments would be very much appreciated.
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pooneh Joharchi
>> Sent: 10 December 2013 12:21
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>> Subject: ESOL Exam for immigration purposes
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>> Dear All,
>>
>> There is an issue which i wanted to share with you and have your input about it.
>>
>> Since you all may aware that people have been required to produce B1 certificate in order to apply for indefinite leave to remain or British passport. Meanwhile there are some training centres who are taking advantage of the people and the immigration system by providing the certificate without actual exam or even by attempting to release the exam content to the examinee prior the actual exam to deceive the awarding bodies and to enable the examinees to pass the exam in one go.
>> In my opinion there should be a responsible organisation to monitor the training centres who are producing the ESOL certificate for immigration purposes.
>>
>> I would value your opinions.
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> Pooneh
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>>
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