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Subject:

Re: RCN journals price hike

From:

"Hay-gibson Naomi (TEES, ESK AND WEAR VALLEYS NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)" <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community <[log in to unmask]>

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I believe someone has just invoked Godwin's Law.
Equally importantly, this has repercussions not just for the direct customers of RCN but also for those journal clubs and systems such as ULSERS/PLCS. We will see a massive drop in the number of holding institutions, and this will have knock-on effects to the supply of articles to students and staff.

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Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] RCN journals price hike

isn't that what the Nazis called "Gleichschaltung" ?


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'Normalisation measures' is a rather charming euphemism!

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On 22 Nov 2013, at 16:08, Markett wrote:

> I would like to clarify a few points from the listserv discussions today as there is some misinformation with regard to some of our recent changes.  We are reviewing all of our aggregator vendor arrangements and it is correct that RCN Publishing titles are no longer available through Proquest and CENgage Learning.  Although we are also in the process of changing the worldwide sales and distribution of our journal titles this will not affect customers in the United Kingdom and we will continue to serve customers in the UK directly.
>
> With regard to the changes in our pricing structure, RCN Publishing is happy to discuss with you any concerns you have regarding your renewal.  We have taken every effort to reach out to each and every subscribing institution to advise of the recent changes to our platform and pricing and why these normalisation measures were necessary.
>
> With best wishes,
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> Tony O'Rourke
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> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the
> Information Community [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Cole, Louise [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 22 November 2013 14:24
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> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] RCN journals price hike
>
> I think someone needs to clarify as the BMJ told me that they are now 'in partnership' with the RCN and when I asked about the big deal encompassing their titles, for example, and whether the RCN titles would be included for 2014 they said no, but they hoped they would be in 2015 ...
>
> I've now been in touch with our agent AND Ovid to establish what's going on!
>
> Best
> Louise
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Emma Shaw
> Sent: 22 November 2013 14:07
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> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] RCN journals price hike
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> The BMJ have told us that they can't supply RCN content to UK customers.
> Emma
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>
> On 22/11/2013 13:30, Cole, Louise wrote:
>> Not only is there a price hike and a reduced archive (a 'rolling archive', in the 21st century? ), but there were teething problems when the domain name changed on the RCN website which caused us a number of problems.
>>
>> If the price rise is the only option (i.e. no print) then we will be thinking very carefully about our options.  Luckily our agent is now on the case for us and has put our renewals on hold.
>>
>> Everyone is aware that the RCN titles have been sold to BMJ, aren't they?
>>
>> Best
>> Louise
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the
>> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of Perry Helga (RKB) Electronic Systems&  Resources Librarian
>> Sent: 22 November 2013 12:04
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] RCN journals price hike
>>
>> Yeah, well done, RCN Publishing. Look how you are alienating the UK and Ireland academic and healthcare libraries, who are cancelling in droves. Changing to Atypon and pulling your content out of ProQuest and other aggregators is bad enough, and now this massive price hike and stupid institutional licencing that doesn't even provide a proper archive.
>>
>> As for the 5.43% VAT, I should imagine that figure represents the element of the combined subscription model that is deemed to be "online only" content, as with books that include a CD or DVD.
>>
>>
>> Helga J. Perry, Electronic Systems&  Resources Librarian Clinical
>> Sciences Library University  Hospital Coventry CV2 2DX
>> 02476 968827 ; [log in to unmask] ; Twitter @UHCWLibrary Try
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