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Re: The Syndicate - building a history of lists

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Sean Cubitt <[log in to unmask]>

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Fascinating discussions (my first email list was rhizome, which Simon Biggs introduced me to around 1994 I think).

Two lists of great significance for the people using them:
http://listcultures.org/pipermail/fibreculture_listcultures.org/
- mainly Australian, the archive online only goes back to 2010 but the list was much older: perhaps others can add a note on whether the archives are stil available for the earlier period. Fibreculture went into autodestruct in the mid 2000s, mprphing into a community of blogs and a journal

and of course Sarai.net (their server is chuntering this morning so I can't check if the archives are still there)

Annick gives us a reminder that even in those early days English was not the only language online

sean


On 7 Oct 2013, at 08:45, Andreas Broeckmann wrote:

> dear friends,
> 
> thanks for bringing this up. i'm not sure whether i have anything new to say about the syndicate that we have not already said in the 2001 article which sally posted. - being so personally involved from the preparatory conversations in 1995 to the ugly collapse in 2001, i have always found it difficult to gage the more general relevance of the syndicate; but i believe that for many people in the emerging central and east european media and art communities of the 90s, it was an important source of information that provided multiple contact points to each other, and to a wider, international scene. remember also that at the time, for the 50+ core group of the syndicate, the personal encounters during the Syndicate Meetings which took place once or twice a year, possibly had a deeper impact on us that the mailing list could have on its own.
> 
> there are some other materials on the v2 archive:
> 
> http://v2.nl/archive/organizations/syndicate?searchterm=syndicate
> 
> and there are reflexions on the role of the syndicate list in research texts by Geert Lovink (was already mentioned here), Rasa Smite, and Clemens Apprich (forthcoming).
> 
> unfortunately, the archive of the syndicate list on the v2 servers has been lost and it would be great if we could find a place and help to put it back online. i assume that some people will have more or less complete archives on their back-up disks (zone and vuk were diligent collectors of everything back then). if anybody could offer some concrete, practical help on this, i'd be happy to hear from you.
> 
> regards,
> -a
> 
> 
> Am 06.10.13 14:52, schrieb Sally-Jane Norman:
>> Agree with Armin. The "human-technical assemblages" Syndicate was made of were vital. I'm sure Andreas and Inke will be able and well placed to respond, but maybe the swansong mail they posted on nettime provides a useful overview in the mean time. It's a long story marked by a deep ethos and visionary generosity on the part of those who put the effort into launching and maintaining it, like any that engages deep inter-personal and collective communication. Hard to do justice with hindsight. Especially from the perspective of 2013 list-log-blog-surf culture.
>> 
>> best
>> sj
>> 
>> 
>> <nettime> Rise and Decline of the Syndicate
>> 
>>     To: nettime-l {AT} bbs.thing.net
>>     Subject: <nettime> Rise and Decline of the Syndicate
>>     From: Arns/Broeckmann <inke {AT} snafu.de>
>>     Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:52:49 +0100
>>     Reply-To: Arns/Broeckmann <inke {AT} snafu.de>
> 

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