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Re: editing - Clinical Psychology

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"Harwood, Nigel" <[log in to unmask]>

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Harwood, Nigel

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Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:24:34 +0000

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Thanks, MJ, for this.

Here are the references for the work we have done on 'proofreading' of student writing:


Harwood, N., Austin, L., & Macaulay, R. (2012). Cleaner, helper, teacher? The role of proofreaders of student writing. Studies in Higher Education 37: 569-584.

Harwood, N., Austin, L., & Macaulay, R. (2010). Ethics and integrity in proofreading: findings from an interview-based study. English for Specific Purposes 29: 54-67.

Harwood, N., Austin, L., & Macaulay, R. (2009). Proofreading in a UK university: proofreaders' beliefs, practices, and experiences. Journal of Second Language Writing18: 166-190.

See also pieces by Joan Turner and Mary Scott.

All Best
Nigel


Dr Nigel Harwood
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From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Curry, Mary Jane [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 August 2013 14:21
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Subject: Re: editing - Clinical Psychology

I think if students don’t get professional editing help—which almost all published authors do get, even ‘first’ language users—then faculty often end up doing mechanical editing although research shows that students don’t learn much from this practice and it’s very discouraging to receive heavily edited papers back.

Nigel Harwood and colleagues have published some good research on this topic in JEAP and elsewhere, I think.

Mary Jane


Mary Jane Curry, PhD
Associate Professor, Language Education
Director, Writing Support Services (https://www.warner.rochester.edu/students/academics/writing)
Margaret Warner Graduate School of Education & Human Development
PO Box 270425, LeChase Hall 474
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627
TEL 585.273.5934
FAX 585.473.7598
http://www.warner.rochester.edu/facultystaff/curry/



From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margie Clow Bohan
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: editing - Clinical Psychology

Good Morning Elizabeth and Everybody,

Thank you for sending the request to us. It brings up a very important issue, one that some on the listserv may want to discuss.

In Canada and elsewhere academics differ in their views on the editing of student work. At my university in Atlantic Canada, many faculty would view editing of academic material (before it is graded) as an academic offence. Students are expected to learn to write well (including the stages of writing called editing and proofreading) in English in order to graduate. When explaining the point to students who want editing, I often ask them the following question: if faculty are giving say 10% of the value of the assignment for expression of content, then if I edit, are they willing to give me 10% of their mark (or a portion of it at least)? My understanding is that these students would not have fully written the documents and should not have full value. Students, of course, are very quick to grasp "the unfairness" of my request.

Whether my request would be fair or unfair is inconsequential; the question does bring the importance of editing to the discussion. Are we helping students learn to be good writers by allowing editing? Is editing of student work ethical? One further point: eventual employers in the long run, also, expect students/new employees to be able to write. That writing needs editing and co-op students or new employees do need to edit their work: businesses rarely employ editors and supervisors are not fond of fixing employees' work.

Other faculty, however, take alternative views on the issue of editing. What do you think about the idea of allowing editing of academic assignments?

Have a lovely summer day.

Margie
Margie Clow Bohan PhD
Manager, Writing Centre
Dalhousie University Writing Centre
Room G25D Killam Library
6225 University Avenue
PO Box 15000 Halifax, NS  B3H 4R2
(902) 494-3379
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From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Elizabeth Harding <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:40 AM
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Subject: editing - Clinical Psychology

Hello Everyone,

Although I have retired from teaching Scientific Writing I still have some contact with former students who want a bit of help with this and that.

Today I received an e-mail from one of my students asking if I knew a native speaker of English who would undertake the editing of  ‘papers and other documents produced during my PhD.’

She particularly wants someone who has Clinical Psychology as an academic background and who is experienced in editing papers within this field.

If anyone feels they can tackle this, please contact

Aida Dias
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kind regards

Elizabeth Harding

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