> what if the reviewer has no clue of these things we call structures ? I think for those people table 1 might still provide some justification.
Someone who knows little about structures probably won’t appreciate the technical details in Table 1 either ....
J rgen
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On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:58, "Bernhard Rupp" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> We don't currently have a really good measure of that point where
>> adding
> the extra shell of data adds "significant" information
>> so it probably isn't something to agonise over too much. K & D's
>> paired
> refinement may be useful though.
>
> That seems to be a correct assessment of the situation and a forceful
> argument to eliminate the review nonsense of nitpicking on <I/sigI>
> values, associated R-merges, and other pseudo-statistics once and for
> good. We can now, thanks to data deposition, at any time generate or
> download the maps and the models and judge for ourselves even minute
> details of local model quality from there.
> As far as use and interpretation goes, when the model meets the map is
> where the rubber meets the road.
> I therefore make the heretic statement that the entire table 1 of data
> collection statistics, justifiable in pre-deposition times as some
> means to guess structure quality can go the way of X-ray film and be
> almost always eliminated from papers.
> There is nothing really useful in Table 1, and all its data items and
> more are in the PDB header anyhow.
> Availability of maps for review and for users is the key point.
>
> Cheers, BR
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