Come Geraldine, obviously any woman pointing out she was overlooked has no reason to say so aside from egomania. It's not as if women are routinely overlooked or anything.
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On 21/07/2013, at 8:50 PM, Geraldine Monk <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'm sure I meant 'other women' otherwise I wouldn't have written 'other women'. Does that answer your question?
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> Are you sure Geraldine that you do mean all other women or just yourself being left out of the list Tony made? Just asking.
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> Aw alright Tony I'll forgive you even though you start off by saying you'd forgotten my Selected! But it is a point worth making every so often about the way women are so often not included on roll-calls in Britain. The accusation of gloating wasn't directed towards you, apologies if I gave you that impression but for others who seem extremely harsh and cynical towards Chris and Jen who worked their socks off to make Salt what it was/is.
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> Aw Randolph - it was inevitable - I couldn't help but laugh!!
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Frazer
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> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Salt poetry editor Roddy Lumsden’s comments about the BritPo list.
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> Sorry, Geraldine. I'd forgotten the Selected -- only remembered Ghost & Other Poems, so I had you down for a single appearance. Mea culpa. It's more than likely I've forgotten others too. It was done without a lot of research….
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> I certainly don't gloat about it; I've been trying to defend them, while not ignoring some of the problems they had. Without Chris' help way back when, Shearsman wouldn't have developed quite so quickly.
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> On 20 Jul 2013, at 20:42, Geraldine Monk <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> One of Salt's earliest publications was a very substantial Selected Poems of mine followed by the Companion (ed by Scott Thurston) and then my beautiful Ghost & Other Sonnets. I'm also almost 61 years of age so you'd think I'd qualify for Tony's list below more than some he mentions but no - it's all blokes.
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> I know you publish and champion loads of women writer's Tony and of course you published my Cusp but if I may say so it's always a bit depressing when women are dropped off these type of lists because that's how women poets (or women movers and shakers in public life in general) disappear from view altogether - not by willful exclusion but by a gradual dropping off and dropping out of roll-call lists and discussion of writers. I've noticed it throughout my writing years and even in a list like one where I seem to qualify on all levels I'm not mentioned. Sigh.
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> Obviously Salt and Chris H-E have been good to me and I was dismayed when they appointed Roddy Lumsden as poetry editor as he was a man who seemed to conduct a rather nasty vendetta against me for some time, ridiculing my work in public and the like, which I found deeply distressing. To all intent and purposes my contact with Salt all but finished with the appointment of him. It's all a bit sad really. Nothing to gloat about for sure.
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