JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN Archives

PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN  June 2013

PHD-DESIGN June 2013

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Intuition, Imagination and Insight

From:

Ranjan MP <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:57:10 +0530

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (235 lines)

Dear Chuck

I have read your papers and your website iDesignThinking that was used by
my students at NID for several years since I had recommended it to them as
a credible source for design thinking approaches and strategies that
overlapped closely with what I was teaching them through my course titled
"Design Concepts and Concerns".

In your theory you use seven modes of thought for design thinking and I too
have a model developed over three decades of teaching design thinking that
has recognised seven distinct styles of thinking and my terminology is
different but there are clear overlaps and concurences.

In my Design Journey model and paper of 2007 I have spelt these out and the
paper can be downloaded from my blog or from the academia.edu site at this
link.
<http://academia.edu/3609717/Design_Journey_Think_Report_NID_2007>

My course that was developed at NID from the 80's evolved from teaching
Design Methods that started with a discussion of Bruce Archers model but as
we improved our understanding of the complexities of the design thinking
processes through trial and error and through application in real design
tasks that we were fortunate to encounter in the hundreds due to the nature
of practice and education pedagogy that was being practiced at NID through
the 60's 70's and all the way into the 90's — Learning by Doing  — as it
was called. It was only in 2002 that I wrote my first paper about that
course and this was done at the invitation of the guest editor of Design
Issues but my paper was not accepted by the Journal editors, perhaps they
did not find my claims palatable at that time. This was the Avalanche
Effect paper which I posted to the PhD Design list at this post on 1st
December 2003.
<
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind03&L=PHD-DESIGN&P=R180559&1=PHD-DESIGN&9=A&I=-3&J=on&X=2C964052B18722B834&Y=ranjanmp%40gmail.com&d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches&z=4
>

My theory of Design Thinking was finally published in 2005 at the peer
reviewed conference at Bremen University at the EAD06 conference. The paper
was titled "Creating the UnKnowable:....". download at this link here
<http://academia.edu/3609796/Creating_the_Unknowable_2005>

Design is indeed creating the unknowable, no knowledge precedes original
design action, only insights that are gleaned from particular experience
and experiments, science fails us here, and I believe the science processes
too will fail us here. However, as Klaus Kripendorf tells us in his paper
"Design Research - an Oxymoron" — early stage science is indeed design like
but it is conveniently forgotten in the later stages of rigorous
documentation and peer reviews etc — after the fact.

My course developed assignments that could help student grow into (learn
thought processes and attitudes) that corresponded with the seven styles of
thought that constituted design thinking when taken in its totality. These
assignments were refined and explored year after year till it was near
perfect for the needs of our students both at the undergraduate level as
well as in the PG programmes level at NID and this is documented in great
detail but not yet fully published except on my blog "Design Concepts and
Concerns" blog at this link here.
<http://www.design-concepts-and-concerns.blogspot.in/>

I believe that we should look at both cognitive and affective capabilities
that are informed by feeling and ethical positions that would need
discourse on attitudes and values, and not just abilities and economics.
This search for finding the right balance in attitudes was a long journey
and it is still work in progress. Many more thoughts come to my mind but I
will pause for now and welcome suggestions and other thoughtful inputs from
the list.

I am now working on a course module that ca be introduced to non-design
students at Ahmedabad University as well as CEPT University, both of which
are looking to introduce Design Thinking for their students across
disciplines. More on this later, but soon, since the task is time bound,
any suggestions?

With warm regards

M P Ranjan
from my Mac at home
27 June 2013 at 12.55 am IST

-------------------------------------------------------------
*Prof M P Ranjan*
*Design Thinker and author of blog -
www.Designforindia.com<http://design-for-india.blogspot.com/>
*
E8 Faculty Housing
National Institute of Design
Paldi
Ahmedabad 380 007 India

Tel: (res) 91 79 26610054
email: ranjanmp@g <[log in to unmask]>mail.com

<http://www.ranjanmp.in/>blog: <http://www.design-for-india.blogspot.com>
(current and with downloads)
education blog: <http://www.design-concepts-and-concerns.blogspot.com>
(archival)
education blog: http://www.visible-information-india.blogspot.com (archival)
Page on Facebook <*http://www.facebook.com/Designforindia*>
Academia.Edu <http://cept.academia.edu/RanjanMP>
<http://www.visible-information-india.blogspot.com/>
------------------------------------------------------------


On 26 June 2013 23:31, Charles Burnette <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Terry and colleagues,
> Thank you for your understanding. I think the following brief summary of
> how my theory developed over time might illustrate points Terry made. The
> summary is a slightly edited version of one I sent Ken off list in a more
> civil exchange off list .
> _____
> We go about things differently. I have practiced architecture and
> industrial design and have taught design at several levels. I built my
> theory out of a PHD dissertation in which different kinds of information
> communicated during an architectural project were identified and
> psuedo-coded in a computational list processing format to demonstrate the
> feasibility of such an approach. I found it easiest to explain how the
> system would work by recasting it as a role oriented approach to problem
> solving through which people could experience the roles and how they
> interacted when pursuing shared objectives. This was tested through
> workshops at many universities in the 80's and later at the K-12 level for
> design based education in public schools. It was adapted for various
> purposes: teaching design team management, documenting design cases, studio
> teaching, the design of informations systems for hospital planning,
> interactive simulation of human factors during design, etc. always with a
> practical or educational objective. A Teaching Resource for basic education
> is still online thanks to Terry. A book was prepared for publication in
> Korea documenting the use of the theory there. At that point I decided to
> explore the implications of the theory in domains such as Philosophy,
> Emotion, Cognitive Science, Communication, Morals and Ethics, etc. The
> range of this investigation precluded exhaustive immersion in each field
> but readings have been extensive as the Bibliography Behind A Theory of
> Design Thinking indicates. (I know what literature I'm interested in. I'm
> not looking for gaps) Since I have a theory grounded in its application I
> am not trying to justify it but am exploring its potential and referencing
> work that seems to support its interpretations.  I do not believe that one
> can fabricate a theory of such scope your way, nor do I wish to. I am
> content to do my best at making sense of what I have tested and I am
> pleased with some of what I have uncovered. At my age, I am happy to keep
> my mind at work, and pleased that some others might see something of value
> in what I post. I will attempt to self publish if I can't find anyone
> interested when and if a book gets done. On other topics I can be poetic.
> Who knows?
>
> So relax, stop being judgmental on your terms, and follow the dots.
> _______
> Thanks to all,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Terence Love wrote:
>
> > Chuck suggested some concepts relating to intuition, imagination and
> insight are not theoretically defined and Ken responded with counts of
> items from search engines.
> > This points to an issue not yet well addressed on this list or in the
> design research literature - the epistemological quality of publications as
> they relate to theory.
> > Many research publications are ‘atheoretical’ in the sense that they are
> not grounded in, and tested and proved against predictive scientific forms
> of theory in which concepts are tightly defined. Instead ‘atheoretical’
> discourse focuses on making a more limited kind of sense or representation
> of phenomena that is not so tightly justified in terms of scientific theory.
> > Many disciplines are predominately atheoretical in their discourse,
> although it is relatively rare that this perspective is widely discussed in
> them. Examples of predominately atheoretical disciplines and their
> literatures include Business and Management disciplines, the Social
> Sciences, much of Economics, Political Theory, Law, Psychology and
> Neuroscience, and almost all of the Design research literature. There are
> exceptions such as the role of Operations Research in Business and
> Management and the development of scientific theories about Design such as
> those developed in AI (although many remain intrinsically atheoretical).
> > Limitations of atheoretical discussions include reduced  ability to
> analyse new theories and concepts  in a scientific manner, lack  or
> inaccuracy of prediction, poor justification of relationships between
> causes and effects, lack of agreement across the research and professional
> communities, faulty reasoning leading to incorrect assumptions and
> overarching lack of clarity, prediction and usefulness.
> > The literatures and conceptual definitions and discussions relating to
> ‘intuition’, ‘imagination’, ‘insight’ and ‘design’ are typically
> atheoretical. The lack of agreement and lack of clear delineating
> definitions to date of each is a strong indicator they are atheoretical.
> Chuck seemed to be attempting a less atheoretical  approach to representing
> the relationships between these concepts.
> > My reading of Chuck’s analyses and publications over the last decade is
> Chuck is attempting to move the bar towards developing (scientific)
> theory-based concepts  and improve theory by moving it away from
> atheoretical foundations  . On one hand, this requires defining concepts
> and relations in a non-atheoretical manner. On the other hand, it requires
> being aware of the extent and limitations of atheoretical literatures and
> the atheoretical discourses within them. This seems to be the succinctly
> put essence of Chuck’s opening sentence in the paper he posted.
> > Others, including Don Norman, Tim Smithers, Phil Agre, Vladimir Hubka,
> Ernst Eder, Buckminster Fuller, Herbert Simon and John Gero appear to be
> following a similar path away from the atheoretical discourses and concepts
>  and towards sounder theoretical footings for design research.
> > Ken, in his comments on Chucks paper pointed to the large numbers of
> publications resulting from  searches of keywords in areas and disciplines
> that are substantially atheoretical. Ken did this without reference to
> whether the disciplines, publications, concepts, analyses and discourses
> were atheoretical or not. Instead, Ken seemed to be assuming that any and
> all publications in an area were of relevance.
> > This seems to be at the heart of the situation. An awareness of the
> problems of using atheoretical publications as the basis for scientific
> theory  means there is little or no need to prove each atheoretical
> publication irrelevant. Instead, the requirement is only to point to the
> issue, which Chuck has done. Ken, whose research and writing is typically
> in disciplines in which atheoretical discourse is dominant, has responded
> to Chuck apparently assuming Chuck’s intentions were also atheoretical.
> > Best wishes,
> > Terry
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > PhD-Design mailing list  <[log in to unmask]>
> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design
> > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> PhD-Design mailing list  <[log in to unmask]>
> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design
> Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>


-----------------------------------------------------------------
PhD-Design mailing list  <[log in to unmask]>
Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design
Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager