The complete poems (very few) of Aubrey Beardsley can be found at:
http://www.cypherpress.com/beardsley/poetry/index.asp
(as far they go. I remember Jones' essays on art and poetry very well,
'Epoch and artist' was the book title. His views were somewhat, erm.)
On 25 March 2013 14:50, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> And as far as that goes, here's a lot of ekphrasis in David Jones.
>
> Jenna Butler & I had a bit of a discussion about this recently at canadian
> poetries:
>
> http://www.canadianpoetries.com/conversations/barbourbutler
>
> So, I too will be interested, Bob.
>
> Doug
>
> On 2013-03-23, at 5:29 PM, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > It was a matter of distribution - I certainly knew about a lot of the
> > figures of the British avant by 1974 - Roy Fisher, Bob Cobbing, Raworth,
> > Bunting, MacSweeney, WS Graham (I can remember a recording of David Jones
> > being broadcast while he was still alive - though by then in a nursing
> > home) though I never heard anything about Prynne and the Cambridge crowd
> > then. But not Ashbery and the New York poets (Beats, yes, confessionals,
> > yes, Bly and Wright, yes)
> >
> > On 23 March 2013 23:20, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> That's ok, Sheila. I remember that time very, very distinctly. Though
> >> Ashbery's poems were then unknown to me. And for Bob: the Auden was from
> >> about December 1938, shortly before Auden left for the USA. The Wiiliams
> >> poem first appeared in the Hudson review in 1960.
> >>
> >> db
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 March 2013 20:02, Sheila Murphy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I remember the poetry issue - but misrecall just exactly when (I
> remember
> >>> where I was, though) :)
> >>>
> >>> And then the book!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks DB
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David Bircumshaw <
> >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bob
> >>>>
> >>>> The Ashbery piece was first published in the August 1974 issue of
> >>> 'Poetry'
> >>>> and written sometime 73/74. It always makes me feel a kind of Vietnam
> >>> just
> >>>> over but Nixon still in power sensation so I suspect more 73 than 74.
> As
> >>>> for telling 'them' about ekphrastic poetry, please consider the
> >>>> consequences of its further propagation.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> best
> >>>>
> >>>> db
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 March 2013 17:29, bob grumman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Sheila, but
> >>>>> you're WAY too late!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Robbot
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sheila Murphy
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:58 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Anyone know the dates of poems by Auden, Williams and
> >>>> Ashbery?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Self Portrait ought to be about 1975 or 6.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, bob grumman <
> >>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>>> **
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just read the Middleton piece--good reading. I only mention the
> >>> poems
> >>>>>> in my piece, don't discuss them, so didn't need more data--but glad
> >>> you
> >>>>>> sent me to Middleton!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> all best, Bob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Hondros
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:15 PM
> >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Anyone know the dates of poems by Auden, Williams and
> >>>>>> Ashbery?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Bob,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Musée des Beaux Arts' was published in 1938, although the
> collection
> >>>>>> escapes me. 'Landscape with the Fall of Icarus' was in *Pictures
> From
> >>>>>> Brueghel*, 1962. Not sure about Self-Portrait, but Ashbery is on my
> >>>> 'must
> >>>>>> know everything about' list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You may also find this relevant, a post that was on the *Southerly*
> >>>>>> website
> >>>>>> by Australian poet Kate Middleton:
> >>>>>> http://southerlyjournal.com.****au/2012/03/30/icarus-**
> >>>>>> downstage-right-writing-art/<h**ttp://southerlyjournal.com.au/**
> >>>>>> 2012/03/30/icarus-downstage-**right-writing-art/<
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://southerlyjournal.com.au/2012/03/30/icarus-downstage-right-writing-art/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Happy ekphrasis!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 23/03/2013, at 11:55 PM, bob grumman <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The poems are the two by Auden and Williams about the fall of Icarus
> >>>>>> and Ashbery's "Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror." I'm writing about
> >>>>>> ekphrastic poetry for my next Scientific American blog entry. I’ve
> >>> been
> >>>>>> searching the net for a while but no dates are showing up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks for any help, Bob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Chris Jones
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:23 AM
> >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>>> Subject: topology math
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> this on topology and one dimensional topology and also which
> >>> explains
> >>>>>> how one dimension can appear as 3 dimensions may be useful to others
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Topology<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Topology>
> >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.**org/wiki/Topology<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/****pmc/articles/PMC1077109/?page=****1#fn1
> >>>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/**pmc/articles/PMC1077109/?page=**1#fn1>
> >>>>>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.**
> nih.gov/pmc/articles/**PMC1077109/?page=1#fn1
> >>> <
> >>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1077109/?page=1#fn1>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and breaking classical law...
> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Smooth_infinitesimal_analysis<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Smooth_infinitesimal_analysis>
> >>>>>> **<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Smooth_infinitesimal_analysis<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smooth_infinitesimal_analysis>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> BLOG http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.****com.au/<http://abdevpoetics.
> **
> >>>>>> blogspot.com.au/ <http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com.au/>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >>>> **
> >>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >>
> >> **
> >> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Joseph Bircumshaw
> > **
> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
> >
>
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