Dear Birger, Kari-Hans, and Chuck,
Mendeley represents the same problems that bother Kari-Hans. Someone owns it, and that someone can change it when
they want and do what they wish with it. We don't get a vote. The big problem with Mendeley is that people start a project
and then abandon it, 10% complete or maybe only the first "let's rock!" contribution and then nothing.
It may make me seem old-fashioned, but if everyone who has spent time looking through these systems and composing
notes to the list would simply write up the simple bibliographies that Chuck would like to see, that would be the first step.
These can be posted to the list, they can be posted to institutional repositories -- or even to Academia.edu, which we can
use until we don't like it. If everyone did that, of course, we'd also have a dozen or so bibliographies instead of a few hundred
posts on this topic dating back nearly a decade. So far we have two bibliographies -- Chuck's and mine on Academia.edu, and
we're waiting for a third.
Software doesn't write. Scholars write.
"Go now, write it on a tablet for them,
inscribe it on a scroll,
that for the days to come
it may be an everlasting witness."
-- Isaiah 30:8
Ken
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:01:45 +0100, Birger Sevaldson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I was just thinking that Mendeley has some of the sharing features and openness we talk about. Maybe it was mentioned before but anyway worth looking into. I migrated from endnote. It has some pros and some cons. What do you think?
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About Academia.com: I agree with you that Academia.com has many nice and worthwhile features, but I think that there is a generic problem with systems such as this, or e.g. Facebook: they easily acquire a status of some kind of "standard", as they gather a very large following with their nice features, and many people invest a lot of their own effort into uploading their materials and generating other useful connections etc. This gives the service a power position in the society that they tend to use to their advantage without making corresponding commitments to the community to manage the emerging resource according to the best interests of everyone.
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On Feb 12, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Charles Burnette wrote:
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I have been exploring and pondering what a bibliographic system to support design education, scholarship and research might include and how it might be organized to provide a window into other resources. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can respond to guide us.
It has been suggested that a bibliographic database with source identifiers, an abstract or statement of scope and purpose for each bibliography, keywords, a common citation format, and url links to digital documents at academia.edu or other digital depositories would offer a feasible portal for accessing bibliographic content relative to design provided by its authors subject to guidelines from a committee representing the field.
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