Many thanks. In terms of disciplines, we would mainly be interested in social sciences and humanities related areas.
Hope this helps
Alex
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For Economics, there is a tradition of putting working papers up on the web in various repositories.
See http://ideas.repec.org/ for a way in. These are not necessarily finalised, but close.
If others know of sources for other disciplines, please say.
For some of the debate, see http://blogs.plos.org/plos/
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Afternoon
For what it's worth, I work in a local authority research team and trying to access academic articles to build evidence to support commissioning of services has had me scratching my head for a while.
In the end, we've contacted our local universities in order to explore how we can access this information or farm the work out to university staff/ researchers in a mutually beneficial way.
A discussion with the Research Support Officer at one of our local universities raised the issue of open access articles. For someone unfamiliar with the territory, could anyone point me in the direction of any relevant open access repositories please.
Regards
Alex
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Good idea. But I notice Springer, for example, allows the author(s) of an article to post the "author's copy" of the piece on a personal webpage, or univ. repository, immediately - and to post what they call the "publisher's pdf" after 12 months. They may not be typical, as they are currently promoting various aspects of their "open access" credentials.
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Aaron Swartz's death has drawn attention to a fundamental problem in society, namely the use of copyright to restrict the flow of information. The irony is that all those scientists who want their work to be disseminated as widely as possible have joined a system which forbids them to communicate their peer-reviewed articles electronically for free. Aaron Swartz was trying to break the societal division which allowed only members of academic institutions to have direct free access to the world's store of knowledge.
The solution lies in scientists' negotiating the right to disseminate their peer reviewed articles, say, six months after being published in a journal. Paradoxically, this would actually increase subscriptions and the signal value of a particular journal that agreed to this request. Six months is a long enough period to take into account the insatiable curiosity of those looking for new knowledge, but short enough to enable considered research to reassess the original information by having access to original scientific articles. Without this kind of solution, 97% of the general population is excluded from meaningful scientific debate, and has to rely mainly on filtered press releases.
John Urquhart
On 21 January 2013 18:48, the.Duke.of.URL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> While I completely sympathize with your point of view, I don't think
> it is the case that Swartz 'hacked' into JSTOR. He just did something
> for which neither MIT nor they were prepared. He appears to have had
> legitimate access to the archive. It is usually impractical for the
> average user of JSTOR to download about half a million documents. He
> obviously had no intention of reading them all. Therefore, they could
> not have been for his own personal use. JSTOR appears to have been
> operating under such an assumption. And were caught out.
>
> MIT's role in this is a lot more cloudy. They claim to be
> investigating and therefore can't really comment.
>
> What is disgusting is that institutions' first line of defense is not
> mea culpa with an intention of fixing what went wrong if anything but
> to accuse an individual, usually someone vulnerable, of doing something wrong.
> Therefore, not their fault.
>
> Part of the problem here is that we seem to be operating under a
> deeply entrenched blame culture, which is reinforced virtually every
> day by the lying of politicians and other public officials as a first
> reaction. I have no idea how to overturn this.
>
>
> larry brownstein
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> To: "the.Duke.of.URL" <[log in to unmask]>;[log in to unmask]
> Sent: 21/01/2013 11:53:02
> Subject: Re: JSTOR
>>
>> It is significant that JSTOR's statement is not signed by an
>> individual accepting responsibility for that statement, or at least
>> acting as a point of contact. Had this been done, it would be
>> possible to point out to him that the creators of the world's store
>> of knowledge appear to be forced under the present system to
>> surrender copyright to the publishers of their work. Otherwise, they
>> would be at liberty to publish on the internet their original papers
>> without individuals such Aaron Swatrz risking their lives and reason
>> to hack into the world's store of knowledge. In the long-run,
>> Swartz's death is the responsibility of all those scientists who
>> subscribed to this totalitarian system of thought, which perpetuates
>> a class structure and bodes ill for the futures of both science and society.
>>
>> Please note: my name,
>>
>> John Urquhart
>>
>> On 16 January 2013 00:37, the.Duke.of.URL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Whatever one may think of JSTOR's statement, it does indicate that
>>> the justice department's persecution of Swartz can not be defended
>>> on rational grounds.
>>>
>>> From JSTOR:
>>>
>>> Aaron Swartz
>>>
>>> We are deeply saddened to hear the news about Aaron Swartz. We
>>> extend our heartfelt condolences to Aaron's family, friends, and
>>> everyone who loved, knew, and admired him. He was a truly gifted
>>> person who made important contributions to the development of the
>>> internet and the web from which we all benefit.
>>>
>>> We have had inquiries about JSTOR's view of this sad event given the
>>> charges against Aaron and the trial scheduled for April. The case is
>>> one that we ourselves had regretted being drawn into from the
>>> outset, since JSTOR's mission is to foster widespread access to the
>>> world's body of scholarly knowledge. At the same time, as one of the
>>> largest archives of scholarly literature in the world, we must be
>>> careful stewards of the information entrusted to us by the owners
>>> and creators of that content. To that end, Aaron returned the data
>>> he had in his possession and JSTOR settled any civil claims we might
>>> have had against him in June 2011.
>>>
>>> JSTOR is a not-for-profit service and a member of the internet community.
>>> We
>>> will continue to work to distribute the content under our care as
>>> widely as possible while balancing the interests of researchers,
>>> students, libraries, and publishers as we pursue our commitment to
>>> the long-term preservation of this important scholarly literature.
>>>
>>> We join those who are mourning this tragic loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> larry
>>>
>>> Dr L Brownstein
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