I would second that - we could write access guide after access guide,
but user, I am sure, will neither know nor care what a federation is and
which one they belong to! I have been provided with a WAYFless URL by
Eduserv that does seem to have circumvented this, however, so that might
be worth pursuing.

On a separate note, I have been informed by a number of users that the
e-mail sent out to those with account that the URL noted in the e-mail
throws up an error message "unknown or unusable identity provider". 

Sarah



 

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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information
Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicole
Harris
Sent: 03 December 2012 16:33
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect following authentication
changes

Ale

Has Elsevier considered NOT asking users to chose between different
types of federations but instead having a type-ahead search box that
goes across all federation metadata, which is the standard now in most
discovery services such as the Shibboleth Embedded Discovery Service and
DiscoJuice?  Expecting users to know which federation they are in,
especially with the unhelpful language around Athens which confuses the
concept of technology and federation, does not seem to be a very
sensible approach moving forward and is certainly not one that is
recommended by the NISO Espresso guidelines, which is the only real
standard in this space at the moment.

Regards

Nicole

On 03/12/2012 16:13, Vries, Ale de (ELS-NYC) wrote:
> Dear Mark, all -
>
> We're working to resolve these issues as we speak - e.g. we fixed a
major problem with the Scopus institutional login page this morning in
an emergency release. Elsevier staff will also be reaching out to
individual libraries to resolve the issues that seem specific to their
institute.
>
> On the issue of personalization:
> - Athens users at institutions that are in the OpenAthens federation,
should still have access to their saved searches and never see the
'Activate Personalization' - the only change is that they have to log in
through the OpenAthens federation. If, however, this is not the case let
us ([log in to unmask]) and Eduserv know.
> - Athens users at institutions that are in the UK federation, will
have to log in through the UK Federation. We have just sent personalized
links to these users that will allow them to transfer their Athens
profile to a profile associated with their UK Federation login - we had
originally planned to send these messages early in the day but decided
to wait until we had resolved the major issue mentioned before. We
advise that Athens users who log into SD/Scopus through the UK
Federation to NOT use "Activate Personalization" _before_ getting this
message and clicking the link in it.
>
> Also see our FAQ on
http://www.info.sciverse.com/news-events/releases/sciencedirect/2012/12/
01/open-athens.
>
> Best - Ale
>
>
> Director, Platform Integration
> Elsevier
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the 
>> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
>> Behalf Of Mark Brown
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:56
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect following authentication

>> changes
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> If it helps antone, Eduserv also recommended to us this format (who 
>> use old-styleAthensDA with Shib hosted by Eduserv), which works for
us:
>>
>> https://auth.elsevier.com/ShibAuth/institutionLogin?entityID=[IdP 
>> ENTITY ID]&appReturnURL=http://www.sciencedirect.com/
>>
>> though we may have lost some saved searches etc in the process, and 
>> user has to go through  "Activate Personalization" which  (yes 
>> annoyingly I
>> agree) they had to before.
>>
>>   It's a shame the student experience is never to the fore in these 
>> things - given the amount of money we pay for such resources.
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Brown
>> Electronic Services Librarian
>> eLibrary Team
>> Library and Learning Resources
>> Birmingham City University
>> 0121 331 5291
>>
>> Electronic Resources Blog
>> http://eresource.wordpress.com/
>> eLibrary Team blog
>> http://bcuelibrary.wordpress.com/
>>
>> http://www.twitter.com/mcbjazz
>>
>> "If you don't make mistakes, you're not really trying!"
>> -Coleman Hawkins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the 
>> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
>> Behalf Of Taylor, Sarah
>> Sent: 03 December 2012 11:35
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect following authentication 
>> changes
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Following the changes to authentication to ScienceDirect that took 
>> place over the weekend we find ourselves completely unable to access 
>> ScienceDirect off-campus, and it looks like we've been completely 
>> excised from the Eduserv OpenAthens list as well as the UK Fed list. 
>> We are using OpenAthens with the Athens to Shibboleth gateway, so it 
>> might be that this is not affecting everyone, but is anyone else 
>> having problems?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've sent a message to Elsevier but the auto-reply I got suggested 
>> that they are having a large amount of messages to deal with and they

>> may not be able to get back to me in the usual timeframe, which of 
>> course appears not to be detailed on the auto-reply...
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sarah Taylor
>>
>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>
>> The Peter Marsh Library
>>
>> University of Bolton
>>
>> Deane Road
>>
>> Bolton
>>
>> BL3 5AB
>>
>>
>>
>> 01204 903099
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Please note that my normal working days are Mondays, Tuesdays and 
>> Thursdays
>>
>>
>>
>>
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