But I consider myself to be both. I work as an engineer but my degree was joint honours maths and physics.
In fact, I like scientists. But I also like engineers.
But which is better?
There's only one way to find out...!
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Rhys Phillips
Lightning, Electrostatics & EMH
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Mike, you are absolutely right that what we need is a war between scientists and engineers to sort out decisively once and for all which is the more overlooked profession!
Bob Ward
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The shortage of engineers in high places is far more worrying than the scarcity of scientists. Engineers know what to do with all that knowledge and understand how to make stuff happen.
Too many scientists couldn't give a toss about what happens to their research as long as someone is willing to fund their hobby.
Fortunately, several "chief scientists" in Whitehall are actually engineers.
MK
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Yes. Chi was at the IET Presidential Address a few weeks ago (and I believe the IOP Awards the night before) - she's clearly motivated and the right sort of person we need there.
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Rhys Phillips
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Just to mention that Chi Onwurah MP for Newcastle Central and shadow minister for innovation is also a chartered engineer. Though I do think science and innovation need a stronger profile and leadership in general in the UK.
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Barbara Govan
Science producer and communication trainer www.screenhouse.co.uk
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POLICY DEBATE: DO WE NEED MORE SCIENTISTS IN PARLIAMENT?
Thursday 29th November 2012, from 18:15 to 21:00 (refreshments served from 18:15 for a 19:00 start)
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The UK Parliament s 2010 intake contained just one MP who had worked as a research scientist before entering the House of Commons - Dr Julian Huppert. With science and technology playing increasingly prominent roles in society, it s easy to see why some people are concerned by the lack of scientists in Parliament. In this panel debate, we ask if the lack of scientists in Parliament really is a problem - or are scientists better off getting their message to Parliament through other channels? A panel of key stakeholders from science and Parliament will discuss the issues surrounding scientific expertise in Parliament, before taking questions from the audience. A wine reception will be held afterwards, where delegates will have the opportunity to discuss the issues informally. Following the event, a podcast of the debate will be made available.
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- Dr Phillip Lee MP - Conservative MP for Bracknell, member of Energy and Climate Change Select Committee and Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Environment Group
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