I agree with Chris that Heritage Impact Assessments and DBAs are not events, but in some cases with DBAs (less so with HIAs) the DBA is all you have and unless you record the area as a deserted medieval field the DBA only appears as a reference. The pragmatic approach is to record the DBA as an event.
Incidentally had Germany in the 1930s has some form of STV the NSDAP would not have been the leading party.
If voting could change anything it would be banned and of course it was!
David Evans
Archaeology and HER
South Gloucestershire Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of Chris Webster
Sent: Thu 18/10/2012 11:28
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Ok I will go on about it again. The site visit is the event - the DBA is the source.
Do you record entries in Pevsner as an event?
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Chris Webster
Somerset Historic Environment Record
Somerset County Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of Jenny Hall
Sent: Wed 17/10/2012 11:18
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Surely the site visit results in primary evidence? We certainly end up with a photographic archive.
Jenny
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Hi, Chris
We do record the fieldwork the DBAs and EIAs may contain as events (usually surveys.). The DBAs, EIAs, etc which contain no events but are a collation of secondary evidence are recorded as sources.
Kind Regards
Dr Rebecca Casa Hatton
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip
Sent: 17 October 2012 10:28
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Hi Chris,
Maybe you could qualify this by saying 'In my opinion'. In a recent ALGAO survey 76% of respondents said that they recorded these as events.
Phil
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 16 October 2012 17:15
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
I don't want to go round this again but these are not events, they should be in the HER as sources for the monuments they describe.
Chris Webster
Historic Environment Record
Somerset County Council
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Orr
Sent: 16 October 2012 16:53
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Subject: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Dear all
Is anyone else recording good Heritage Impact Assessments as Events in their HERs? If so, what Event Type (as in the NMR Event Type Thesaurus - http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus.asp?thes_no=566) do you categorise them as? There isn't currently a specific term for them, and the scope notes for DBA, EIA and Historic Area Assessment aren't really right for what we see coming in with planning applications. I know there is some scepticism about whether work like DBAs should be considered as Events (and not simply as Sources) but it makes sense from the point of view of data structure to record them as such. I would also argue that well researched assessments do add a lot to HERs and should be flagged up as pieces of work. Is there a need for a new thesaurus term of Heritage Impact Assessment do you think?
Thanks
Sarah Orr
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Culture and Environmental Protection
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