ok feel free to use wiki, doesn't seem to be whole lot between the definitions really. maybe we should use the one in Organising Around Enthusiasms instead.

CTC comments - bit of jump there, I wasn't attacking the CTC which you seemed to imply. And yes I have been out on CTC rides. Perhaps I should have clarified it better, but thought it was obvious. CTC I see as more of national organisation , admittedly with very local and social activities, I don't want to study them.  I am interested in the types of clubs I listed ie what might be called local cycling clubs.


Graham Berridge
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From: Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of burton richard [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 31 October 2012 11:15
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Subject: Re: Cycling club membership

I think that your definition of a club is extremely narrow, but I'm not sure why you think CTC doesn't fulfil even your own narrow definition as it's members meet regularly for social events.  Perhaps your viewpoint might be slightly skewed?  Have you ever been out for a ride with CTC?

I much prefer the wikipedia definition "A club is an association of two or more people united by a common interest or goal. A service club<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_club>, for example, exists for voluntary or charitable activities; there are clubs devoted to hobbies and sports, social activities clubs, political and religious clubs, and so forth."

On 31 October 2012 10:51, Graham Berridge <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Thanks to everyone for comments so far.

For some clarification, I hope.
I agree a club doesn't need to meet the needs of whole community, just its members.
So the essence of the enquiry was what, if any,  research exists on cycling clubs and their members' needs. This could of course link to motivations for joining and what they expected to get out of being a member. Similar studies exist for say Health and Sports ( Gym) clubs and there is material on various other voluntary organisations, but we couldn't immediately find anything specific on cycling clubs, other than via some of the personal accounts/stories already mentioned.

I was thinking of a club along the lines of  this:
An organization composed of people who voluntarily meet on a regular basis for a mutual purpose other than educational, religious, charitable, or financial pursuits. A club is any kind of group that has members who meet for a social, literary, or political purpose, such as health clubs, country clubs, book clubs, and women's associations

So rightly or wrongly I don't see the CTC in this light. From a London perspective then the types of cycling clubs would be such as CC Hackney, London Phoenix, Kingston Wheelers, Addiscombe etc etc.

Regards Graham


Graham Berridge
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From: Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of John Meudell [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
Sent: 31 October 2012 10:23
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Subject: Re: Cycling club membership

Sorry, but I don’t understand why a club needs to meet the needs of the whole community.  A club is an association of like-minded individuals in pursuit of a common endeavour….

There’s clearly a need for some definition of club in this correspondence…..if not the focus of the research itself.

Cheers

John Meudell



From: Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of burton richard
Sent: 31 October 2012 07:56
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Subject: Re: Cycling club membership

Not sure I'd describe them as meeting the needs of the entire community.  From their website, they seem to be almost totally dedicated to competitive cycling: no family rides, no beginners rides.
On 30 October 2012 19:47, Richard Lewis <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
Mirela,

If anyone can tell you the answer to this, the organisers of Cycling
Club Hackney can. Have a look at their website to see how they meet the
needs of the entire community.

cyclingclubhackney.co.uk/<http://cyclingclubhackney.co.uk/><http://cyclingclubhackney.co.uk/>

Regards
Richard.


On Tue, 2012-10-30 at 14:28 +0000, Mirela Oliver, Research Assistant
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> Does anyone know of any research into cycling club membership needs and/ or member's requirements when joining a cycling clu?
>
> Mirela Oliver, Research Assistant on behalf of Graham Berridge, School of Hospitality and Tourism, University of West London.