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Re: Record 8 - discussion

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"C.J. Carty" <[log in to unmask]>

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C.J. Carty

Date:

Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:32:37 +0100

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Good question, I couldn't find aything about abridging lengthy other title 
information either when I checked as I thought it must be there as an 
option/alternative. Didn't see anything in LC-PCC PS either. Other title 
info is not core in RDA but it is in LC-PCC PS.

On Oct 25 2012, Freedman, Vanessa wrote:

> This is relevant for some older Hebrew books, where the title page can 
> often be a kind of blurb - AACR2 gives you the option to abridge lengthy 
> other title information, but I can't see this in RDA - though I may be 
> missing it.
>
>Vanessa
>
>Vanessa Freedman
>Hebrew & Jewish Studies Librarian
>UCL Library Services
>University College London
>Gower Street
>London WC1E 6BT
>
>Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 2598 (Internal ext. 32598) 
>Fax: +44 (0) 20 7679 7373
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>Website: www.ucl.ac.uk/library
>
>**Please remember the environment and only print this if necessary**
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly 
> Sent: 25 October 2012 12:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 8 - discussion
>
> I don't feel too happy about putting a lot of weight on that example. I'm 
> not sure why the phrase was taken to be OTI rather than an edition 
> statement - perhaps something to do with the layout?
>
> The statement in Example 8 is verging on blurb/advertising. Since it 
> contained edition information I just extracted that. Otherwise I would 
> have seriously considered treating it as a quoted note rather than as any 
> kind of title information. I don't have very strong feelings in this 
> case, but I'm sure we will come across examples where there are much, 
> much longer and more blurbish statements between the title proper and the 
> statement of responsibility and I would be very reluctant to treat them 
> as title information.
>
>Best wishes,
>Bernadette
>
>*******************
>Bernadette O'Reilly
>Catalogue Support Librarian
>01865 2-77134
>Bodleian Libraries,
>Osney One Building
>Osney Mead
>Oxford OX2 0EW.
>******************* 
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Doyle Sent: 25 
> October 2012 12:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 8 - discussion
>
>Edition statement:
>
> RDA 2.5.2.6 has an example (4th one down) which I used as the rationale 
> behind this one. "If edition statement is integral to other title 
> information, record it as such and do not record a further designation of 
> edition".
>
> The 4th example says "a revised and augmented edition of...", so I took 
> that. However, I then can't include 'fully revised and updated' as I'm 
> not allowed to include another edition statement.
>
> BUT I object to treating this as a subtitle!! Feels wrong on so many 
> levels!
>
>HelenD.
>
>Helen Doyle
>Assistant Librarian
> 
>Royal Academy of Dance
>36 Battersea Square
>London
>SW11 3RA
>0207 326 8032
>
>
>>>> Helen Williams <[log in to unmask]> 10/25/2012 11:59 am >>>
>Hi Helen
>
> I was very unsure about your first point too. In the end I didn't put it 
> as a subtitle, because I'd effectively recorded the same information in 
> the designation of edition, and in note on title... But I wasn't 
> convinced that was correct.
>
>Helen 
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Doyle Sent: 25 
> October 2012 11:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 8
>
>No. 8.
>
> Issues: 1) is that edition statement a subtitle?? (I have lots of notes 
> going back-and-forth on this!) 2) I went with previous editions being 
> related expressions - ?
>
>HelenD.
>
>
>
>Helen Doyle
>Assistant Librarian
> 
>Royal Academy of Dance
>36 Battersea Square
>London
>SW11 3RA
>0207 326 8032
>
>
>>>> Wendy Taylor <[log in to unmask]> 10/25/2012 11:50 am >>>
>Wendy (RNIB)
>
>
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-- 
CÚline Carty
English Cataloguing
Cambridge University Library
Cambridge CB3 9DR

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