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Re: DISCUSSION record 3

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Nicky Ransom <[log in to unmask]>

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Nicky Ransom <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:01:23 +0000

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Another quick question about record 3, I have put the two parts of the statement as responsibility as separate elements in MARC separated by semi-colon (Anna E. Bulow and Jess Ahmon ; with contributions from Ross Spencer) but I note that not everyone has. Any thoughts on which is correct? And if it matters!

Nicky Ransom
Data Quality Manager & Cataloguer
University for the Creative Arts
Farnham
GU9 7DS

01252 892739
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From: CIG E-Forum [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of C.J. Carty [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 24 October 2012 11:42
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] DISCUSSION record 3

Oh I thought App I was a closed list, so assumed we couldn't just add
something... off to check where I got that impression.

Celine

On Oct 24 2012, Lee, Deborah wrote:

> I think that's a good idea, and would do the same if I was cataloguing
> the item again. I also ummed and errer about whether he was a creator or
> a contributor, so it is really interesting to see other people having the
> same debate!
>
>Debbie
>
>Deborah Lee
>Senior cataloguer
>Book Library
>Courtauld Institute of Art
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>
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>Now on at The Courtauld Gallery:
>
>Peter Lely: A Lyrical Vision
>11 October 2012 - 13 January 2013
>
> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
> Williams Sent: 24 October 2012 11:31 To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] DISCUSSION record 3
>
> I entered 'contributor' on the grounds that I thought Appendix I wasn't a
> closed list, so I could use cataloguer judgement to add to it??? What do
> people think? Helen
>
> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Hazard, Jill Sent: 24 October 2012 11:29 To:
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject:
> Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] DISCUSSION record 3
>
> I had the same problem - glad it wasn't just me! Closest thing I could
> find was writer of added text (I.3.1) but was no good as it's for A
> person, family, or corporate body contributing to an expression of a
> primarily non-textual work by providing text for the non-textual work
> (e.g., writing captions for photographs, descriptions of maps).
>
>
> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne
> Welsh Sent: 24 October 2012 11:18 To:
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject:
> Re: DISCUSSION record 3
>
>I have to run off to a meeting.
>
> Just to say, I was stumped by the relationship designator for the
> contributor here. I "contributions by" didn't give me enough information
> to pick one from RDA's list, and I puzzled over whether I should add the
> vague "contributor" or just leave it blank. The axiom "When in doubt
> leave it out" led to an odd-looking record, I fear.
>
>Anne
>
>From: Anne Welsh <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Date: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 11:14
>To: <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of record 3
>
> Caveats apply: NOT teaching material, just own stab at this; although I
> teach and write RDA, because so much of the application of any set of
> rules is about practice and policy as well as the rules themselves, I am
> also just learning. :)
>
>Anne
>
>
>Anne Welsh
>
>Lecturer in Library and Information Studies
>http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/annewelsh
>
>Acting Director of Studies, UCL Department of Information Studies
>(Term 1, covering Rob Miller's sabbatical)
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>
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>Alexandria: the Journal of National and International Library Issues
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>
>Out Now: Practical Cataloguing: AACR2, RDA and MARC21
>by Anne Welsh and Sue Batley. Facet Publishing, 2012.
>http://www.facetpublishing.co.uk/title.php?id=6954&category_code=102
>
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>
> From: Helen Williams
> <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: Helen
> Williams <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date:
> Wednesday, 24 October 2012 11:05 To:
> <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject:
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Submission of record 3
>
> Please feel free to keep the excellent discussions on record 2 going -
> some of the issues will come into other records as well. Please also
> begin to submit record 3 between now and then we can start discussion of
> that at 11.15
>
>Helen
>
>Helen Williams
>Assistant Librarian, Bibliographic Services
>
>LSE Library Services
>The London School of Economics and Political Science
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>
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