I would say, re: adding web addresses, it depends on the source. In this case, no, I would not include it.
kathie
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I checked the website, and it is feeble. Contact emails for the authors and links to fairly ordinary cataloguing resources, e.g. MARC, and including the subscription-only RDA Toolkit, which could be quite annoying. The pretext is that these links enable users to update their course material. In MARCThink, barely worth a note.
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I agree about the task of deciding whether the website was a W/E/M is complicated without seeing the website. I just read the description, which I read as being something independent which had a lot of content not directly related to the text, i.e. a general resource for cataloguing non-print materials, but this might just be me and I wish that I had had time to look at the website ... Certainly brings up some interesting issues about the relationship between companion websites and texts!
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I couldn't think of anything better!
One of my (numerous) issues with this one was that I didn't know what was on the CD/website. If they are essentially the book but just in a different format, then I think that's a related manifestation. But if they have new/extra/different content, I thought they'd be related expressions - RDA's example of related expressions includes expanded/revised/abridged versions of things.
But then, if the authors conceived of their project as a "book-with-a-CD-and-a-website", does that make all three bits part of one overarching Work?
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Helen, I like the 'expanded by' related expression you've added for the CD ROM. I'd not thought of that.
In terms of the website, which quite a few of us seem unsure about, I opted for related expression, because it looked too different from the book to be a related manifestation, but I wasn't sure if it constituted a new work.
Helen
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Me too! No. 9 attached.
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>>> Bernadette Mary O'Reilly <[log in to unmask]>
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Nervous about this one. I've hardly looked at RDA for non-print yet.
Hoping other people will provide me with some good models.
Also interested in how far people record companion websites. We often ignore them, because they either are available only to purchasers or cease to be available pretty soon, so readers would get mad ; but this policy verges on misrepresentation, since it may suggest that the resource is freestanding when it isn't.
Best wishes,
Bernadette
Record 9. Describing electronic, digital, and ....
Field
Ind.
Data
RDA Inst.
LDR/7
m
LDR/18
i
008/22
008/35-37
eng
020
$a9781856046848
040
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$e rda
100
1#
$aWeber, Mary Beth,
$eauthor.
245
10
$aDescribing electronic, digital, and other media using AACR2 and RDA :
$ba how-to-do-it manual and CD-ROM for librarians /
$cMary Beth Weber, Fay Angela Austin.
250
##
$aUK edition.
264
#1
$aLondon :
$bFacet Publishing,
$c2011.
264
#4
$c(c)2011.
300
##
$axviii, 301 p. :
$billustrations,
$c28 cm +
$e1 CD-ROM.
336
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$atext $2rdacontent
337
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$aunmediated$rdamedia
338
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$avolume$2rdacarrier
336
##
$aunspecified$2rdacontent
337
##
$acomputer$rdamedia
338
##
$acomputer disc$2rdacarrier
Companion website is too feeble to be worth 3XX.
500
##
$aAccompanying CD-ROM provides guidance for creating descriptive records, links to online sources and templates (MARC, MODS, Dublin Core).
500
##
$aCompanion website has links to mainstream cataloguing resources, some of them subscription-only.
500
##
$aPublished simultaneously in U.S.A. by Neal-Schuman.
500
##
$aReplaces: Cataloging nonprint and internet resources. U.S. :
Neal-Schuman, 2002.
This was the best I could do with the idea that the earlier work was the 'predecessor' of the current one. The term suggests a different work, not just an earlier version, so I'm treating the 2011 resource as a new work.
I'm sticking to the old AACR2 format for citations, because it is simple and neat. Hard to explain to new cataloguers, though, because there are no areas of description nowadays.
700
1#
$aWeber, Mary Beth.
$tCataloging nonprint and internet resources.
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