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Re: Record 9 - discussion

From:

Bernadette Mary O'Reilly <[log in to unmask]>

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Bernadette Mary O'Reilly <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:43:05 +0100

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I checked the website, and it is feeble.  Contact emails for the authors
and links to fairly ordinary cataloguing resources, e.g. MARC, and
including the subscription-only RDA Toolkit, which could be quite
annoying.  The pretext is that these links enable users to update their
course material.  In MARCThink, barely worth a note.

best wishes,
Bernadette


******************* 
Bernadette O'Reilly 
Catalogue Support Librarian 
01865 2-77134 
Bodleian Libraries, 
Osney One Building
Osney Mead
Oxford OX2 0EW.
******************* 


-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lee,
Deborah
Sent: 25 October 2012 14:34
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 9 - discussion

I agree about the task of deciding whether the website was a W/E/M is
complicated without seeing the website.  I just read the description,
which I read as being something independent which had a lot of content
not directly related to the text, i.e. a general resource for
cataloguing non-print materials, but this might just be me and I wish
that I had had time to look at the website ... Certainly brings up some
interesting issues about the relationship between companion websites and
texts!

Best wishes,

Debbie

Deborah Lee
Senior cataloguer
Book Library
Courtauld Institute of Art
Somerset House
Strand
London WC2R 0RN

Telephone: 020 7848 2905
Email: [log in to unmask]
Now on at The Courtauld Gallery:

Peter Lely: A Lyrical Vision
11 October 2012 - 13 January 2013


-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Doyle
Sent: 25 October 2012 14:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 9 - discussion

I couldn't think of anything better!

One of my (numerous) issues with this one was that I didn't know what
was on the CD/website. If they are essentially the book but just in a
different format, then I think that's a related manifestation. But if
they have new/extra/different content, I thought they'd be related
expressions - RDA's example of related expressions includes
expanded/revised/abridged versions of things.

But then, if the authors conceived of their project as a
"book-with-a-CD-and-a-website", does that make all three bits part of
one overarching Work?

HelenD.

Helen Doyle
Assistant Librarian

Royal Academy of Dance
36 Battersea Square
London
SW11 3RA
0207 326 8032


>>> Helen Williams <[log in to unmask]> 10/25/2012 2:18 pm >>>
Helen, I like the 'expanded by' related expression you've added for the
CD ROM.  I'd not thought of that.

In terms of the website, which quite a few of us seem unsure about, I
opted for related expression, because it looked too different from the
book to be a related manifestation, but I wasn't sure if it constituted
a new work.

Helen

-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Doyle
Sent: 25 October 2012 14:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 9

Me too! No. 9 attached.

Helen Doyle
Assistant Librarian

Royal Academy of Dance
36 Battersea Square
London
SW11 3RA
0207 326 8032


>>> Bernadette Mary O'Reilly <[log in to unmask]>
>>> 10/25/2012 2:03 pm >>>
Nervous about this one.  I've hardly looked at RDA for non-print yet.
Hoping other people will provide me with some good models.



Also interested in how far people record companion websites.  We often
ignore them, because they either are available only to purchasers or
cease to be available pretty soon, so readers would get mad ; but this
policy verges on misrepresentation, since it may suggest that the
resource is freestanding when it isn't.



Best wishes,

Bernadette



Record 9. Describing electronic, digital, and ....



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020



$a9781856046848



040

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$e rda



100

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$aWeber, Mary Beth,

$eauthor.



245

10

$aDescribing electronic, digital, and other media using AACR2 and RDA :

$ba how-to-do-it manual and CD-ROM for librarians /

$cMary Beth Weber, Fay Angela Austin.



250

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$aUK edition.



264

#1

$aLondon :

$bFacet Publishing,

$c2011.



264

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$c(c)2011.



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$axviii, 301 p. :

$billustrations,

$c28 cm +

$e1 CD-ROM.



336

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337

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$aunmediated$rdamedia



338

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$avolume$2rdacarrier



336

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$aunspecified$2rdacontent



337

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$acomputer$rdamedia



338

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$acomputer disc$2rdacarrier







Companion website is too feeble to be worth 3XX.



500

##

$aAccompanying CD-ROM provides guidance for creating descriptive
records, links to online sources and templates (MARC, MODS, Dublin
Core).



500

##

$aCompanion website has links to mainstream cataloguing resources, some
of them subscription-only.



500

##

$aPublished simultaneously in U.S.A. by Neal-Schuman.



500

##

$aReplaces: Cataloging nonprint and internet resources. U.S. :
Neal-Schuman,  2002.



This was the best I could do with the idea that the earlier work was the
'predecessor' of the current one.  The term suggests a different work,
not just an earlier version, so I'm treating the 2011 resource as a new
work.



I'm sticking to the old AACR2 format for citations, because it is simple
and neat.  Hard to explain to new cataloguers, though, because there are
no areas of description nowadays.





700

1#

$aWeber, Mary Beth.

$tCataloging nonprint and internet resources.







*******************
Bernadette O'Reilly
Catalogue Support Librarian

01865 2-77134

Bodleian Libraries,
Osney One Building
Osney Mead
Oxford OX2 0EW.

*******************





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