Never realised that OS archaeologists had to be mute!

David Evans
Historic Environment Record Officer
(Postal Address)
Strategic Planning Policy & Specialist Advice
Department of Environment and Community Services
PO Box 2081
The Council Offices, Castle Street
Thornbury
South Gloucestershire
BS35 9BP
Phone: 01454 863649
fax:       01454 864473
 
Visit our HER on Line at 
http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nash, Aisling (ACS,
Archive and Archaeology)
Sent: 28 September 2012 15:25
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OS Record Cards

Surely you mean an iPad considering iPods are for audio files?

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: 28 September 2012 15:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OS Record Cards

Why didn't they record the info on an iPod! LOL

David Evans
Historic Environment Record Officer
(Postal Address)
Strategic Planning Policy & Specialist Advice Department of Environment
and Community Services PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street
Thornbury South Gloucestershire
BS35 9BP
Phone: 01454 863649
fax:       01454 864473
 
Visit our HER on Line at
http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tyllissos
Sent: 28 September 2012 15:16
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Subject: Re: OS Record Cards

Dear All, 

Having visited the OS Archaeology Section in Southampton, it was really
useful to see both the cards and the maps with marginalia written in by
OGS Crawford, mostly in red ink.  You got real sense of 'process' in the
development of HERs. 

Cheers,
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 28 September 2012 12:36
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OS Record Cards

Hi Tim

my understanding is along these lines

they were generated by the OS Archaeology Section, and at some point
archived with the RCHME/NMR/EH ((whatever it was called at the time) to
form the basis of many NMR records (and this is why NMR numbers have the
format they do, NZ 23 NW 5 etc, to continue the numbering from the OS
system).

I think their original purpose was to enable the Antiquities sites to be
marked on maps.

They were organised by Map Quarter sheet (the NZ 23 NW telling you the
sheet) with the final number just being sequential on that sheet

Some are also labelled M which means marginalia, literally scribbled in
the margin of the Map and often relating to something which may have
been found in that map area but couldn't be located accurately.

My understanding/interpretation is that they were formed/updated on the
basis of Source trawling as well as local surveyors field work eg
references I have seen vary from mentioning talking to someone about
some finds and then going to visit the person who had the finds, as well
as just bibliographic sources for sites.

As to when they were given to LA's don't know, but in our case it seems
we
(DCC) started from that point on using the same numbering system, as did
OS, so there are sites with the same NMR type number which are not the
same site...

As far as I can tell, most of the textual information is available on
Pastscape, but often they have sketches on which aren't on pastscape. It
would be worth confirming this yourself though - as this may vary by
area (I have no idea)

Their quality varies depending on the Surveyor, but generally they refer
to real things, even if their interpretations are not ones I would agree
with

hope that helps

best wishes

Nick Boldrini
Historic Environment Record Officer
Archaeology Section
Design and Historic Environment Team
Planning Service
Regeneration and Economic Development
Durham County Council
County Hall
Durham
DH1 5UQ
Tel: 03000 267008
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-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of GRUBB, Tim
Sent: 28 September 2012 12:22
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Subject: OS Record Cards

Hi
I'm writing an inventory of our holdings and I've come to the OS Record
Cards. I've used them for years without really thinking much about them
but a newer member of staff asked what they were originally used
for.....which had me slightly stumped.

There's obviously a clue in the name but are they any more than a record
of the sites recorded by the OS field surveyors? If so what are they,
how were they updated and when did they start being distributed to local
authorities etc etc

in ignorance
Tim Grubb - HER Officer
Gloucestershire County Council Archaeology Service Shire Hall, Westgate
Street, Gloucester. GL1 2TH Tel - 01452 425705 Email -
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www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archaeology
HER Enquiries. www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/her
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