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Re: the value of OTs and OHA/Ns

From:

E norfolk <[log in to unmask]>

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Occupational Health mailing list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:36:56 -0700

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Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Anna
Sent: 12/09/2012 14:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: the value of OTs and OHA/Ns
yes, I know a controversial point re assessment skills. I guess the reason I
have come to this conclusion is due to their historical use of robust
evidence based tools/models an example of these would be MOHO. This link is
not about promoting this event but gives a little bit more information about
OTs and their history
http://www.history.brookes.ac.uk/conferences/2013/therapy-empowerment/

Another link is www.uic.edu/depts/moho/assess/mohost which gives details of
an assessment tool that they use.

I would also like to emphasise that I do believe we have excellent
assessment skills but OTs are more specialised/deeper in this area. I think
are broader.

Yes also to the danger of being seen as poor relations, but I don't think we
should let this fear from stopping what could be a valuable progression. I
think we need to build a powerful and strong voice and which can occur
through joining with others in the field of OH such as the OTs
Anna
----- Original Message -----
From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] OHT to OHA


> Interesting points, Anna. Not sure why an OT should be an expert in
> assessment and goal setting whereas an OHN is not. If we are unable to
> offer
> those skills then as specialists we should be doing something about it and
> lobby the NMC to make these integral to the learning outcomes of an OH
> qualification. I have recently undertaken a coaching course and will go on
> to undertake more advanced coaching courses. That initial course
> reinforced
> to me that I was already using coaching methodologies such as goal
> setting.
>
> As far as a professional body to register those who wish to use the title
> OHA - yes, I think that is an excellent idea. In my view, sadly, the NMC
> would be a lost cause in part for reasons I have already highlighted.
> However, in common with others I am unsure whether it should be the
> preserve
> of the FOM/SOM. There is always the danger that we could be seen as the
> poor
> relation of physicians.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne Harriss
> Course Director
> LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY
>
>
> On 12/09/2012 13:34, "Anna" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> yes, I believe also that OTs can add huge value to our work in those
>> cases
>> that are tricky to assess and take forward on to the next steps towards
>> employment,  (I also feel we need to think about the unemployed sector as
>> I
>> think we can do good there) RTW or improved engagement and productivity.
>> OTs
>> are experts at assessment & goal setting, we are not (in my view). We are
>> adept and skilled at being able to initially assess, bring in others and
>> co-ordinate. I think this experience and skill development from clinical
>> days plus our professionalism is what sets us apart and as Sharon
>> suggests
>> brings greater re-assurance to an employer. However with current debates
>> around the registration and training of OH people, should there be one
>> professional body whom registers all who want to use the title OHA. For
>> example this could be FOM/SOM??
>>
>> Anna
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] OHT to OHA
>>
>>
>>> No problems: They should  practice within their sphere of competence.
>>> With regard to the scenario you highlight - paramedic experience is very
>>> much a treatment role whereas the focus of OH practice is preventative.
>>>
>>> The OH tech Dip may give them a range of skills including health
>>> surveillance, but in my opinion advice to management re the implications
>>> of
>>> the results of those tests should be the preserve of a qualified OHN or
>>> OH
>>> physician.
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/09/2012 12:58, "dave barnard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good discussion, so lets say the technician has a good medical
>>>> background
>>>> (18
>>>> years ambulance service inc paramedic) and the Dip OH tech ?
>>>>
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