Yeah, you know what youre about Chris; so just watch those 2 (or more) drinks...<g>.
I think it;s just that the bad ones get some our goats....
And then, as you say, to get the good equipment that will do teh job you know you could do....
Good luck.
Doug
On 2012-08-24, at 8:12 PM, Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >It was just that in the manner of his description I did want to ask Why?
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>> >I think that considering poetry as a linear and sonic practice is leaving
>> >little room for the visual over and above the visual inculcated in the
>> >inner ear by the visual.
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> Yes, indeed! Good comments. Most of not what to do has been covered, although there is more. Most recent music videos are crap, at best. There were some done in the 80s worth a look, but from here things went downhill and seem to have stayed that way; so bad I look away. Derek Jarman may be worth another look, come to think of it? (I am talking about competent use of the poetics of the media, of course.)
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> Perhaps I should have said control track instead of sound, since this allows non-linear editing on analog video. For digital, recording a sound track first is easier, given non-linear sound editing tools, eg Audacity, which can edit out the hiss easy enough plus shorten or make longer sounds. Digital editors I use are non-linear, so cutting and so forth is easy. (Thinking of trying Kino for the final video version.) If you are trained in analog production digital is much the same. I guess not many would know how to edit quarter inch audio tape by cutting and slicing, which is non-linear. Same for super 8 film, which has a look which may be useful and is perhaps so overused in music videos to be cliché. A dedicated pro sound and video recorder would solve hiss and quality problems, but the challenge, for me here, is to work with cheap consumer gear. A cheap p&s camera, smart phone and cheap netbook. Also, many other apps are available with Linux, gimp, Blender, Rose Garden, for sound scores and analog synths, since I am hoping to mix in other sounds along with the reading. Tempted to get a cheap midi keyboard, easier to score then a keyboard, although I have another usb keyboard and I almost forgot, my scanner and even photographing prints from my photo printer. Also, old fashion pencil drawings, pen and ink and paint brushes. (Sound is analog using a mike and sound chip, of course.)
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> Doug came close by saying you would need to be trained in visual arts, although I would say media arts (as I am.) This means trained to work with both sound and image and make it work, that is, give video poetry, if that makes sense. The other trick is the poetry has to be written to work with the media. But then, again, that's what I was taught. It should also work as a live reading, although I dislike being referred to as a performance poet.
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> Anyways, not to shut the discussion down... just a few basic things I am considering...
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> (and... not wanting to boast and fearing such, my art degrees were recently listed as in the top 3 internationally. This has puzzled me, so can I question this? Is it because it is media arts and what gets taught. I do understand you do need to taught, of course.)
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