Had a quick, preliminary read, Chris, and enjoyed it.
I liked:
(Gilles Deleuze) My aim is to arrive at a fabulous conception of time.
*Comptesse: *inaudible comment
:)
On 16 August 2012 07:26, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks Chris, I'll take a careful look at that when I can. I am afraid I
> am all too familiar with crude materialists, from the receiving end of
> power. I know about Marx or Marxism being used by capitalist propagandists,
> perhaps what is more pertinent here is how much poetry is used likewise.
> From postmodernistas through to poetry slams to the cult of the trivial.
>
> On 15 August 2012 23:05, chris Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/08/12 16:29, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>>
>>> given
>>> Deleuze's supposed credentials) like contemporary bourgeois managerial
>>>
>>
>> Capitalism will always adapt ideas to suit it's needs, even Marx gets
>> drawn into this. I recently heard a research paper on accounting that used
>> Marx. The imperial nature of capitalism. Beware of, and this is not an
>> insulting term, crude materialist and simple empiricist observations. This
>> Marx warns again, esp after his break with Aristotle, end of Cap Vol 1 Ch 1.
>>
>> Deleuze doesn't write for a supposed socialist future, that would be
>> Utopian. He is writing for the time and takes Marx seriously when Marx says
>> all philosophy is idealist. The virtual is Idea or ideal or I. It is also
>> D's transcendental, which is not a priori, since virtual comes after,
>> hence his importance since her was the first to develop this logic. (The
>> analytic philosopher read and use him, as do quite a few scientists.)
>>
>> I can't understand Dominic's comments, they appear to be returning to
>> Aristotle's categories, which I know he doesn't intend, maybe this is a
>> consequence of DeLanda? Also, not being able to take into account
>> difference. Don't trust DeLanda, Zizek or oter writers on Deleuze, they are
>> doing their own thing, rather then explaining Deleuze. I would say the same
>> of Badiou who is concerned with Virtual as monist.
>>
>> Deleuze has a cruel rigorous logic so there is little to gain by
>> attempting to break it.
>>
>> Zekek in notorious for his misreading and his understanding desire as
>> idealist marks his own idealism, which he mistakes as materialism. However
>> many philosophers writing today do use Deleuze for their own writing. This
>> is not unusual. Ray Brassier has a question which he thinks Deleuze slides
>> over too quickly and is working on this.
>>
>> Deleuze uses Kant's critique in his discussion of dx (DR) which is not
>> derived from x (differntial mathematics derives it proof from X ) and the
>> problem and Idea in Kant. Philosophers don't solve a problem and move onto
>> the next one, the problems remain with the question.
>>
>> I may paste a discussion of the virtual and actual, from Difference and
>> Repetition, into my blog on narrative POV, after checking, but fear it is
>> very heavy going.
>>
>> Unfortunately there is no easy way to understand Deleuze then to closely
>> read the texts. Not an undertaking to take lightly, Especially Difference
>> and Repition, Logic of Sense and A Thousand Plateaus.
>>
>> The below url is a transcipt of D's lecture on Kant... (He wrote the text
>> book)
>>
>> http://www.webdeleuze.com/php/**texte.php?cle=66&groupe=Kant&**langue=2<http://www.webdeleuze.com/php/texte.php?cle=66&groupe=Kant&langue=2>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> **
> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
>
>
--
David Joseph Bircumshaw
**
Website and A Chide's Alphabet
http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
|