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Re: FILM-PHILOSOPHY Digest - 15 Aug 2012 - Special issue (#2012-84)

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The first five films of Terrence Malick. Many of the films of Stan Brakhage and Bruce Baillie. 

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On Aug 15, 2012, at 6:27 PM, FILM-PHILOSOPHY automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> There are 7 messages totaling 752 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
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>  1. films depicting the relationship between humans and nature (7)
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> Date:    Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:50:12 +0200
> From:    David Sorfa <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> I just saw Nicholas Ray's Wind Across the Everglades (1958) which is a quite bizarre film about protecting Florida bird life from plumage poachers, and has a nice anarchic edge to it (as well as lots of homoeroticism). Nature is both beautiful and deadly but death in nature is the epitome of freedom (or something like that).
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_Across_the_Everglades
> 
> Seems to only be available on Spanish Region 2 DVD though (I saw a Portuguese subtitled 35mm copy at the Cinematheque in Copenhagen if that's any help, obscurity fans).
> 
> I'd also suggest the apartheid-era nature documentary, Animals are Beautiful People (notorious for its ludicrous anthropomorphism and depiction of the San):
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlaCrvgI-4w
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> Date:    Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:18:52 +0100
> From:    Ange Webb <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> Talking of  the Birds, it brings to mind Hitchcock's 1963  masterpiece of the same name; nature vs. human again. Best, ange
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: David Sorfa 
>  To: [log in to unmask] 
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [FILM-PHILOSOPHY] films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> 
>  I just saw Nicholas Ray's Wind Across the Everglades (1958) which is a quite bizarre film about protecting Florida bird life from plumage poachers, and has a nice anarchic edge to it (as well as lots of homoeroticism). Nature is both beautiful and deadly but death in nature is the epitome of freedom (or something like that).
> 
> 
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_Across_the_Everglades
> 
> 
>  Seems to only be available on Spanish Region 2 DVD though (I saw a Portuguese subtitled 35mm copy at the Cinematheque in Copenhagen if that's any help, obscurity fans).
> 
> 
>  I'd also suggest the apartheid-era nature documentary, Animals are Beautiful People (notorious for its ludicrous anthropomorphism and depiction of the San):
> 
> 
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlaCrvgI-4w
> 
> 
>  d
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> Date:    Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:03:14 -0400
> From:    John Marmysz <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> Antichrist & Melacholia (both by Las von Trier), where nature is characterized as evil by the protagonists.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamey Findling <[log in to unmask]>
> To: FILM-PHILOSOPHY <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 9:19 am
> Subject: [FILM-PHILOSOPHY] films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> 
> I am working on a new course for next spring entitled "Screening the 
> Anthropocene." The course will concern various depictions in film of the 
> relationship between human beings and nature. So, for instance, in The Day After 
> Tomorrow (2004) one can see nature represented as a monstrous and terrifying 
> threat to humanity, while in Avatar (2009), one can find a conflict between two 
> competing views of nature (as, say, divine source of life on the one hand and as 
> exploitable resource on the other). Yet another view is presented in Into the 
> Wild (2007), with nature a sort of inscrutable and indifferent Other.
> 
> I would very much welcome other suggestions of films that prominently thematize 
> the relationship between human beings and nature. Of particular interest are 
> films that represent the relationship in ways that are distinctive or novel, or 
> that are especially clear or compelling. One specific request would be for films 
> that approach this issue from a Judeo-Christian perspective, such as by 
> manifesting the tension between the "stewardship" and "dominion" narratives in 
> Genesis. (I think, for example, that The Mission [1986] could work in this 
> context.)
> 
> As suggested by my examples, I am mostly looking for films that a general 
> undergraduate audience in the U.S. would find accessible, but that's not to say 
> that other suggestions would be unwelcome.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any and all thoughtful replies!
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> Date:    Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:32:51 +0200
> From:    Ari Purnama <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> I would second Apichatpong Weerashetakul's films particularly Tropical  
> Malady (2004) and Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (2010)  
> even though they may not approach human--nature relationship from a  
> Judeo-Christian perspective. But still, his view on that issue is  
> novel and delivered in an arrestingly distinct style. Hope that helps.
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:03 PM, John Marmysz wrote:
> 
>> Antichrist & Melacholia (both by Las von Trier), where nature is  
>> characterized as evil by the protagonists.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jamey Findling <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: FILM-PHILOSOPHY <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 9:19 am
>> Subject: [FILM-PHILOSOPHY] films depicting the relationship between  
>> humans and nature
>> 
>> I am working on a new course for next spring entitled "Screening the
>> Anthropocene." The course will concern various depictions in film of  
>> the
>> relationship between human beings and nature. So, for instance, in  
>> The Day After
>> Tomorrow (2004) one can see nature represented as a monstrous and  
>> terrifying
>> threat to humanity, while in Avatar (2009), one can find a conflict  
>> between two
>> competing views of nature (as, say, divine source of life on the one  
>> hand and as
>> exploitable resource on the other). Yet another view is presented in  
>> Into the
>> Wild (2007), with nature a sort of inscrutable and indifferent Other.
>> 
>> I would very much welcome other suggestions of films that  
>> prominently thematize
>> the relationship between human beings and nature. Of particular  
>> interest are
>> films that represent the relationship in ways that are distinctive  
>> or novel, or
>> that are especially clear or compelling. One specific request would  
>> be for films
>> that approach this issue from a Judeo-Christian perspective, such as  
>> by
>> manifesting the tension between the "stewardship" and "dominion"  
>> narratives in
>> Genesis. (I think, for example, that The Mission [1986] could work  
>> in this
>> context.)
>> 
>> As suggested by my examples, I am mostly looking for films that a  
>> general
>> undergraduate audience in the U.S. would find accessible, but that's  
>> not to say
>> that other suggestions would be unwelcome.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any and all thoughtful replies!
>> 
>> --
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:25:24 +1000
> From:    Robert Sinnerbrink <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> Le Quattro Volte (2010) by Michelangelo Frammartino--a stunning
> meditation on the human and the animal, on nature and the earth.
> R
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:25:14 +1000
> From:    Jack Sargeant <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> some suggestions:
> 
> natures revenge films: jaws, the swarm, last weekend etc
> 
> disaster movies: earthquake, twister 
> 
> wilderness films: walkabout, wake in fright, 
> 
> herzog: grizzy man, aguire wrath of god, fitzcaraldo, fata morgana etc
> 
> lars von trier: antichrist, melancholia
> 
> jack 
> 
> jacktext.net
> jacksargeant.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> On 16/08/2012, at 2:08 AM, Jamey Findling wrote:
> 
>> I am working on a new course for next spring entitled "Screening the Anthropocene." The course will concern various depictions in film of the relationship between human beings and nature. So, for instance, in The Day After Tomorrow (2004) one can see nature represented as a monstrous and terrifying threat to humanity, while in Avatar (2009), one can find a conflict between two competing views of nature (as, say, divine source of life on the one hand and as exploitable resource on the other). Yet another view is presented in Into the Wild (2007), with nature a sort of inscrutable and indifferent Other.
>> 
>> I would very much welcome other suggestions of films that prominently thematize the relationship between human beings and nature. Of particular interest are films that represent the relationship in ways that are distinctive or novel, or that are especially clear or compelling. One specific request would be for films that approach this issue from a Judeo-Christian perspective, such as by manifesting the tension between the "stewardship" and "dominion" narratives in Genesis. (I think, for example, that The Mission [1986] could work in this context.)
>> 
>> As suggested by my examples, I am mostly looking for films that a general undergraduate audience in the U.S. would find accessible, but that's not to say that other suggestions would be unwelcome.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any and all thoughtful replies!
>> 
>> --
>> To manage your subscription or unsubscribe from the Film-Philosophy list, please visit: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/film-philosophy.html
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>> --
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:27:14 +1000
> From:    Jack Sargeant <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: films depicting the relationship between humans and nature
> 
> also settlers westerns:
> 
> meeks cutoff
> 
> lucky country
> 
> jcak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/08/2012, at 2:08 AM, Jamey Findling wrote:
> 
>> I am working on a new course for next spring entitled "Screening the Anthropocene." The course will concern various depictions in film of the relationship between human beings and nature. So, for instance, in The Day After Tomorrow (2004) one can see nature represented as a monstrous and terrifying threat to humanity, while in Avatar (2009), one can find a conflict between two competing views of nature (as, say, divine source of life on the one hand and as exploitable resource on the other). Yet another view is presented in Into the Wild (2007), with nature a sort of inscrutable and indifferent Other.
>> 
>> I would very much welcome other suggestions of films that prominently thematize the relationship between human beings and nature. Of particular interest are films that represent the relationship in ways that are distinctive or novel, or that are especially clear or compelling. One specific request would be for films that approach this issue from a Judeo-Christian perspective, such as by manifesting the tension between the "stewardship" and "dominion" narratives in Genesis. (I think, for example, that The Mission [1986] could work in this context.)
>> 
>> As suggested by my examples, I am mostly looking for films that a general undergraduate audience in the U.S. would find accessible, but that's not to say that other suggestions would be unwelcome.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any and all thoughtful replies!
>> 
>> --
>> To manage your subscription or unsubscribe from the Film-Philosophy list, please visit: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/film-philosophy.html
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>> --
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> ------------------------------
> 
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