Yes, Jill, I go with that.
I used to know the Ancient Mariner and Kubla Khan and whole tracts of Yeats
and Shakespeare by heart and can well remember being 'bombed out' by
reading Keats aloud. None of this had anything to do with enforced teaching
though.
I think +some+ of the history of modernism represents +in part+ an attempt
to get back to that 'aural-oral' presence on the page.
On 14 June 2012 07:25, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I agree somewhat about flatness, David. And makes me think I shd go
> back to private outloud reading of my own, and others.
>
> I was talking only this a few days ago to a friend who is a poet but
> also works in neuroscience. He noted at some recent readings which
> involved more than one poet working together that the poet waiting in
> line, so to speak, to chime in, was mouthing the words silently. The
> lips moving with the hips maybe. He also said the remarks in the
> Guardian article about the brain and pattern and structure are
> correct.
>
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>
> Jill Jones www.jilljones.com.au
>
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> From: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics"
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> Sent:Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:14:30 +0100
> Subject:Re: memorizing poetry
>
> I used to love memorizing poetry too, but of my own volition. I have
> reservations about compulsory recitals.
>
> On a related issue, performing poetry, I think solo reading aloud of
> successful poems beats attending public performance anytime. I was
> reading
> out alone some Herrick pieces the other day and discovering all sorts
> of
> wee things about them. It's noticeable that a lot of post-1914 verse
> falls
> flat in this respect, and I wondered whether it's because more recent
> poets
> compose for silent reading, or rather they are habituated to silent
> reading
> and write thus, whereas our antique masters wrote for pages that
> would be
> read aloud? Silent reading among the educated classes is historically
> quite
> recent, it begins in very late Roman times, and probably only spread
> across
> society with the advent of mass literacy programs. i know my mother
> used to
> 'mouth' words still. So perhaps the performance versus page issue is
> something of a red herring, or at least an unwonted movement of the
> hips.
> Rather than lips?
>
> On 14 June 2012 02:50, Max Richards wrote:
>
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/books/review/Holt-t.html?_r=1
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.salon.com/2012/06/13/make_kids_memorize_poetry/?source=newsletter
> >
> > Moi - once loved memorising and recalling, and wish it was a
> general thing
> > in education everywhere.
> >
> > Norman Doidge, the brain science writer, praises it also.
> >
>
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