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Re: Depression and Exercise!

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KENNY MARSH <[log in to unmask]>

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KENNY MARSH <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:29:42 +0100

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Very good discussion here on depression and exercise.
I believe that the link is made when you go we're the sun shines all day and that it is no coincident, that the Mediterranean diet and the hot climate, facilitates the self motivation for the self!
In diet, exercise and general well being.
The research is there on the care of the heart and a paper I looked at regarded, the lack of quality, organ donations and the UK.

Organ donations, by the numbers, are better in climates
We're the sun shines
And exercise is the culture.

Kenny marsh
Lecturer in health care
Intensive care nurse
London central


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On 6 Jun 2012, at 14:12, "Dominic Page" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Many thanks Anne, will read through publication in detail with interest, apologies for the error, certainly my reading of the press report was an implication that this was in a 'clinical' setting... in addition, I absolutely respect and appreciate the broader message from the researchers outlined in the BBC report regarding the importance of physical activity.

My concern is not the research (and of course the efficacy of exercise as a 'treatment' needs empirical investigation), but really the impact that reports such as that published on the BBC website and once got hold of by certain sectors of the press have on attitudes to programmes such as those I am currently working on; Third sector projects which include an emphasis on physical activity, but not necessarily in an attempt to directly address depressive symptoms, but rather to address some of the exclusionary experiences associated with mental health disabilities.

Am reading through full BMJ paper as we speak!

Kind regards,

Dom


-----Original Message-----
From: Anne M Haase [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 06 June 2012 13:28
To: Dominic Page
Subject: Re: Depression and Exercise!

Dear Dominic,

Thank you for your email and consideration. To point out, this was
actually a program delivered outside of the medical setting, we received
referrals from GPs. The physical activity facilitation was delivered by
individuals who were external to the medical system.

Although there was no effect on reducing depressive symptoms, we did show a
increase in physical activity which was maintained - an uncommon finding.
The facilitators worked with patients to promote increase and uptake in ANY
form of activity - whatever the patient believed they could successfully
achieve. Our facilitation was based on self-determination theory promoting
development of confidence in engaging in activity, supporting and promoting
the patients' preferences and own choices (autonomy) and development of
relatedness (social networks, support etc).

So unfortunately, this type of information may not have come out in the
press - I agree it is perhaps worrying - but we were able to demonstrate
sustaining physical activity. Also, all trials have some limitations and
this one was no different - so it is not the end of the story necessarily.

Please feel free to email me or my colleagues further for discussion, thank
you.

Kind regards - Anne Haase (co-author - intervention development and
facilitation)




--On 06 June 2012 10:42 +0100 Dominic Page <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18335173
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> Does anyone else find research akin to the above presented in such a way
> worrying. While medically, this research may well have found no link
> between exercise and depression it is important to note that this is in a
> clinical setting.
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> Exercise can take many forms – 5 a side football? Exercise classes etc.
> and the social interaction and development of social networks was for me
> a vital component of recovery and the maintaining of that recovery.
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> Again, the medicalisation of mental health appears to underpin the
> assumptions made here..
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> Dom
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> From: Mental Health in Higher Education [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Sapey, Bob
> Sent: 05 June 2012 20:33
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> Subject: @stimimi, 05/06/2012 19:46
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> This may be of interest to some.
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> Bob Sapey
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> [Image: "Screen_shot_2011-05-21_at_18.30.57_normal.jpg"] sami timimi
> (@stimimi)
> 05/06/2012 19:46
> Royal College of Psychiatrists: Abolish use of formal psychiatric
> diagnostic systems like ICD & DSM change.org/petitions/roya… via @Change
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Anne M Haase, PhD
Senior Lecturer in Exercise, Nutrition & Health
Centre for Exercise, Nutrition and Health Sciences
School for Policy Studies
University of Bristol
8 Priory Road
Bristol BS8 1TZ
Phone: +44 (0117) 331 1150
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