Hi All
MIDAS Heritage is correct to have this mandatory, but that can include deriving it on-the-fly from spatial coincidence (for quering or exporting purposes). MIDAS Heritage does not dictate the methods of storage.
If MIDAS Heritage made this optional, then it would become ligitimate to have a heritage inventory that could not be queried by administrative areas at all, which is clearly undesirable.
cheers
Crispin
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From: Technical advisory panel to the Forum on Information Standards in Heritage. on behalf of Alison Bennett at Place Services
Sent: Wed 23/05/2012 14:16
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Subject: Re: [FISH-TECHNICAL] MIDAS Heritage and Mandatory recording of Admin area
Hi,
Just a thought, but here in Essex I use the database to compile district based stats in relation to a set period of time, and have a hard enough time already persuading people to enter the Admin areas. I'm not sure if I'd get the same level of detail from the GIS attribute data. I also realise that this is a local recording issue but having a Mandatory field has been a useful back-up for me.
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From: Technical advisory panel to the Forum on Information Standards in Heritage. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 23 May 2012 11:12
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Subject: [FISH-TECHNICAL] MIDAS Heritage and Mandatory recording of Admin area
Hi FISH-ies
there has been a bit of discussion on HER Forum about recording of Admin areas, prompted by issues relating to searching by Parishes etc on the Heritage Gateway.
It was suggested to me that I re-post some of my comments on here to see what FISHers think of a suggestion.
Essentially, my suggestion is that MIDAS Heritage should not have the recording of an Admin Area as a Mandatory field, but an optional one.
The train of thought broadly goes like this. Originally, MIDAS had admin areas in because GIS was an emerging technology, so recording Admin areas in text databases was useful to allow retrieval.
However, now GIS is more commonly used, it is usually possible to search/query data using the GIS to manage the Admin area aspect.
Coming at this from an HER perspective, the above method would mean that we would not need to re-code records when admin area change (as for example they have in Durham with the abolition of the Districts) but could still search on the old district boundaries if wanted. It also deals with the issue of Non Parish Areas (ie parish like areas with no official name)
It would also be possible to search on any admin area type (eg old parishes, etc) if the data were held in the GIS
Obviously, looking more widely, not everyone may have GIS, but then an Optional field would allow them to record the data if they felt it necessary.
That's a brief summary of the idea
comments welcomed
best wishes
Nick Boldrini
Historic Environment Record Officer
Archaeology Section
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