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Re: Llanerch

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John Williams <[log in to unmask]>

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John Williams <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:03:43 +0100

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Graham,
I believe you may have the Llanerch Colliery in East Wales /Gwent there,the Yard seam is below the 9ft,and above the Upper 7ft in that area.
 
John.
 

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 From: graham owens <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Monday, 23 April 2012, 22:24
Subject: Re: Llanerch
  
Paul

As a geographically challenged northerner with only limited knowledge of South Wales I may be pitching a bit of a 
curve ball here, so apologies in advance but: 

Tucked up on a dusty shelf I have a copy of "The Geology of the South Wales Coalfied, Part II, Abergavenny" HMSO 
1927.

In describing the Big Vein group of coals it states "The Yard Coal of Llanarch is probably a locally developed coal 
in the measures below the Big Vein Group." In a table showing various shaft sections, it shows the Yard Vien Coal 
being 2'6" approximately 67' below the Big Vien in the Downcast Shaft of Llanarch Colliery

Is this the same working?

Regards
Graham



Quoting Paul Reynolds <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hello Alwyn
> 
> Thabnks for yourd etailed reply and sorry for the delay in replying -- been 
> away for a week and just catching up.
> 
> Many thanks for all your suggestions. The Llanerch slant is a mid-19C slant,
> 
> but presumably in much the same area as the 18C level which "came to the 
> yard" at Llanerch. What I was really trying to establish was what the phrase
> 
> "came to the yard" means, but nobody seems to have come across it. The most 
> convincing suggestion is that "yard" is simply the area riound the levl 
> mouth, so "come to the yard" means "reached the surface". There is a Three 
> Feet seam in the lower Swansea valley but I don't think it was ever called 
> the Yard Seam, always the Three Feet.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alwyn Evans" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:06 PM
> Subject: Llanerch
> 
> 
> > Is this what you're looking for?
> > It's on p.44 of the deskbased archaeological survey of the Lower Swansea
> > Valley
> >
> > Alwyn Evans
> >
> > _http://www.scribd.com/doc/19837936/Lower-Swansea-Valley_
> > (http://www.scribd.com/doc/19837936/Lower-Swansea-Valley)
> >
> >
> > NAME
> > 02262.0w
> >
> > Tir Isaf Tramway
> > NGR
> >
> > PERIOD
> > SS6698595452
> >
> > Post-medieval
> > SUMMARY
> > A  tramway marked on the first edition (1881) Ordnance Survey map. The
> > tramway is shown as running  betweenthe Swansea Valley Line (ID 1699.0w) 
> > and two
> > coalmines,  Fowlers Pit (PRN 01924w) and Tir Isaf Pit (NPRN401516,
> > labelled as Llanerch Slant on the second edition (1899) Ordnance Survey 
> > map. A
> > branch line is shown asrunning  to a series of coke ovens (ID LSV037) 
> > (Toft
> > 1990, 8). The regional HER states that  this tramway servedthe  Middle 
> > Bank Pit
> > (ID 1919w) but there appears to be no cartographic evidence to  support
> > this. By  the time of the  third edition (1917-1919) Ordnance Survey map 
> > the
> > entire line is marked as disused. A short section of  theroute survives to
> 
> > the
> > present day as the route of a  footpath.
> >
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