Surely enough pasties (Ed.)

> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:53:57 +0000
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> Subject: Re: The role of the Cornish pasty in mining history
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> I recently purchased a"Miners Pasty" in Tavistock Devon. A neat way round the ban on Cornish pasties outside Cornwall. Roger.
>  > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:29:39 +0100
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> > Subject: Re: The role of the Cornish pasty in mining history
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> > Jut to complete the internationalism of the pasty.  There are two pasty 
> > shops in Grass Valley, California.  We were directed to the one selling 'the 
> > better pasties'  I hate to think what the other ones were like!
> > 
> > When I was a student at CSM my landlady used to make enormous inedible 
> > 'electric' pasties.  If you found any meat you got a shock!
> > 
> > I sense the heavy hand of our List organiser about to put a stop to this 
> > discussion.
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> > Tony Brooks
> > Cornwall
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> > From: Dr. Sharron P. Schwartz
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:16 PM
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> > Subject: Re: The role of the Cornish pasty in mining history
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> > Regarding pasties in Latin America, the place where you're most likely to 
> > get a decent 'version' of the Cornish pasty is in Mexico, in the state of 
> > Hidalgo where 2 twin silver mining communities, Real del Monte and Pachuca, 
> > were settled by the Conrish from 1824. Real del Monte is a Pueblo Magico (a 
> > heritage designation conferred for its significant cultural links to 
> > Britain, particularly Cornwall), and the pasty has taken on a huge 
> > significance in recent years. The 'pasty typico' is as close to the 
> > traditional Cornish recipe as you'll get, expertly crimped the Cornish way 
> > but minus the 'turnip' (swede) that was nbot obtainable there and often with 
> > the addition of some chilli peppers, but there are a wide variety of other 
> > fillings more suited to the Mexican palate, including mole, refried beans, 
> > pineapple and rice pudding.
> > 
> > There are pasty shops everywhere in Pachuca and Real del Monte where more 
> > pasties are baked and eaten each day than in the whole of Cornwall. The 
> > area's pride in the pasty and its rising commercial importance has resulted 
> > in a very popular annual pasty festival suppoted by the local and state 
> > authorities. Undoubtedly, the pasty is one of the things that draws tourists 
> > to this area, along with the vernacular architecture so different from 
> > anything else in Mexico, the Cornish cemetery at Real del Monte, the mining 
> > museums and the superb mining landscape complete with Cornish engine houses. 
> > Several of the leading pasty makers have recently opened shops in Mexico 
> > City. This hybridised 'paste' is probably a fusion of the type introduced by 
> > the Cornish and the Latin American 'empanada', which I suspect people 
> > posting here have seen in other parts of Latin America. They're certainly 
> > very popular in Chile (containing a variety of ingredients), but are more 
> > like a calzone, not crimped like a Cornish pasty and with a rubbery crust, 
> > as opposed to the shortcrust pastry of a proper Cornish pasty. More about 
> > pasties in Pachuca etc., can be found in my recent book, Mining a Shared 
> > Heritage: Mexico's 'Little Cornwall' which was launched in Cornwall last May 
> > in the presence of both the British and the Mexican ambassadors.
> > 
> > Pasty ingredients vary enormously from place to place, with those from 
> > Moonta and Burra in S. Australia containing pumpkin, I guess because turnip 
> > (swede) was also unobtainable there in the C19th, while the Americans seem 
> > to like to try and sell you a pasty with a side salad, mayo, tomato ketchup 
> > and a plastic knife and fork, hence the outageous tab of 13 dollars and 31 
> > cents I was charged for a take out pasty in Mineral Point, Wisconsin. I 
> > thought it had been flown in specially from Cornwall at that price!! Great 
> > that in Dublin we now have proper Cornish pasties made in west Cornwall 
> > using local produce and flown over to be baked here. And they're absolutely 
> > excellent!
> > 
> > Sharron P. Schwartz
> > Visting Fellow
> > University of Glamorgan
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