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Re: Sci-com and the PhD

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Michael Kenward <[log in to unmask]>

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psci-com: on public engagement with science

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Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:53:30 -0000

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Pallab Ghosh, Lawrence McGinty, Susan Watts.

Not a PhD between them. Susan lets the side down by having a qualification
in journalism.

MK



-----Original Message-----
From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillips, Rhys
Sent: 2012-March-12 15:25
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Sci-com and the PhD

> But yes, if you want to go on telly or the radio or guardian blogs
whatever and opine about about science, you'll need a PhD. Noone wants to
listen to an autodidactic oik.

Well that's just not true. There are several TV and Radio science presenters
who don't have PhD's - some don't even have science degrees at all - and are
still very good (in my opinion) and successful presenters.



--
Rhys Phillips
Lightning, Electrostatics & EMH
x4704



-----Original Message-----
From: psci-com: on public engagement with science
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of scary boots
Sent: 12 March 2012 15:06
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Sci-com and the PhD

It's kind of interesting trying to get a job in a lab about now. Given
the recession, even PhDs are having a hard time finding jobs, so the
market's kind of flooded. Although while you're looking, it is kinda
funny seeing Job Centre folks try to deal with science people. 'You
have a degree in what? And you're asking *me* for help?'

But yes, if you want to go on telly or the radio or guardian blogs
whatever and opine about about science, you'll need a PhD. Noone wants
to listen to an autodidactic oik.

Source: my own, unreliable, experience, as a Master Of Science
struggling to find work in either sci or comm (currently comms
&marketing)

On 12 March 2012 10:20, Frank Norman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I wonder whether a good middle option would be to take a job in a lab for
a year or two.  That would a) give you some valuable bench experience that
would stand you in good stead if you do decide to apply for a PhD later b)
potentially give you opportunities to get involved in sci comms activities
within the lab or institute.
>
> Frank
>
> At 20:44 10/03/2012, Caroline Grainger wrote:
>
>>Aside from the extra qualification, there are other sci comm related
benefits gained from a PhD.
>>If you use the time wisely, you'll probably come across lots of
opportunities to massively expand your science communication experience.
Especially if you choose a university that has a good reputation for its sci
comm work - You can even persuade your university to fund your sci comm
project ideas!
>>If you end up in a job that isn't related (after all, we all need money!)
you'll most likely struggle to find the time to do sci comm projects on the
side.
>>
>>The downside to this is that you also have to do your PhD research.....
which at times will be difficult, draining and horribly depressing. As many
people have said; only do a PhD if you love doing research. It's quite
different to a regular research job - your PhD project is more personal and
more rides on it.
>>
>>I think my time as a PhD student was invaluable to my sci comm experience
and I believe that experience is more important than the qualification
itself.
>>On Mar 10, 2012 6:37 PM, "Emily Pritchard"
<<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>I have a PhD and am struggling to find a job in sci-comm. There just isn't
that much out there at the moment - everything's being cut. One way to think
about it is, in four years' time, when you have your PhD maybe the market
will have recovered and maybe the government will be spending money again,
and maybe there'll be more jobs. Or maybe not.
>>
>>On 10/03/2012 18:18, hephzia tagoe wrote:
>>>I find my same in a similar dilemma. I have a Bsc and an MSc and yet I
find opportunities in the sector are limited without a PhD. To do or not to
do a PhD. From my research every successful scientist I have spoken to says
only do one if you really want to and yet 95% of then have done one. There's
a reason. The reality is your chances of getting the best out of your
Scientific career is limited without one. My advise, do a PhD but at the
right time. It's more about the skills you acquire from it.
>>>
>>>Hephzi
>>>

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