Katie - thanks for sending this information through - are you using this particular app within your museum?
Also for others working in museums, would you provide mobile/ipods that can be borrowed or expect people to bring their own hardware?
Thanks
Anna
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Hi all,
The link below should take you to a company called OOKL, they are
already providing an 'app' specifically for schools to use in museums
etc; Although I think the idea is worth investigating, I think there are
drawbacks, such as schools will need to provide their own equipment, and
expertise. Obvious one, your museum/venue will need a strong wifi
signal, and similar expertise to host this.
To develop your own generic app is a very expensive business if you have
to outsource, as we have found out, you could be talking 30.000 - 40.000
minimum for an all singing all dancing app, including augmented reality
function etc; There are grants available to fund these sorts of projects
however, so it is worth giving it a go...
http://www.ooklnet.com/web/marketing.php?pageid=schools
Katie.
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Sent: 29 March 2012 17:32
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Subject: Re: apps and education
Hi Hilary
Great to see some learningy type discussions coming up on here!
It's interesting also that you should raise this now as a journalist was
asking me the other day about 'educational apps'. I think apps are the
'buzz word' at the moment and as such, digital learning people might be
asked more and more about the potential of educational apps.
I think Michael is absolutely right that you need to think about what
you're trying to achieve in doing the app and make sure that you don't
fall into the trap (as I think it's easy to do) of letting the lure of
the new technology drive development rather than what it will actually
do for the end users.
Like Anna, I'd be really interested in hearing what responses you get to
this and how your research goes. To add in some more questions:
- what do you mean by an 'educational app'? Does it mean an app for use
by schools?
- would they use it in the classroom or at one of EH's properties?
Thanks to Shelley for sharing info on the BM apps - I didn't know about
them and will certainly take a look. Does anyone know of any museums
who have created apps for use in the classroom? Does anyone have a
sense of whether there'd be any appetite for them?
Lastly, is this a topic people would be interested in hearing about /
discussing at the joing MCG/DLNET conference in July in Manchester? I'm
thinking that a panel discussion around apps and education and what they
actually mean in concrete terms could be really interesting. Any
takers? Or anyone who'd like to speak/facilitate?
Thanks everyone
Rhiannon
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I think you need to define why you're developing it.
It could be:
- a pure educational tool tied to the curriculum
- a general "edutainment" app
- to generate revenue
- to promote your properties
- to promote your collections
Once you have clarity on that, you can look out good examples. Danil in
your web team I'm sure can advise, as could Dirk Bennett as he was
involved in developing an app guide to Down House I think.
In my opinion, the people who do some of the best work in this area are
Touchpress.
Hope that helps.
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On 29 Mar 2012, at 16:21, JONES, Hilary wrote:
> Hello list (this is my first post, though I've been reading silently
and lurking for about a year.)
>
> My apologies if this is a post that has come up before. The education
team I work in at EH are interested in the idea of developing
educational apps, but at the moment, the 'idea of developing' is pretty
much as far as we've got, thought-wise, and I thought asking the
infinitely-better-placed list members would be the best next step!
>
> So, are there any MCG-ers out there who have thoughts that they'd be
willing to share on developing/using/evaluating apps - i.e. what makes
good content, or does anyone have any approximate development costings?
One of the things I'm most struggling with is calling it an
'educational' app. Surely most apps have educational aspects about them
without being badged as 'educational'? [Also, I expect we'll struggle
with the cost too, but that's way down the line at the moment...]
>
> Alternatively, please can anyone point me in the direction of apps
that you think are great - even if not necessarily education focussed?
>
> I've seen the Museum of London StreetMuseum and Londinium apps (and
also approximate costings for this from the HLF digital learning and
particpation report:
http://www.hlf.org.uk/aboutus/howwework/Pages/Digitalparticipationandlea
rning.aspx )- but are there more produced by museums/galleries/historic
sites that any of you know about please?
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts/help you can share/offer.
>
> Hilary *crosses fingers that this posts successfully*
>
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