I don't think we can avoid incorporating user tags into the resource
discovery process (OPAC, Google, whatever). It might be useful to tell
users whether a "tag" has come from a user or professional (who said that?
will become a common feature of metadata), as well as which vocabulary, if
any, it was chosen from. Critical mass is essential, of course, to allow
statistical weighting. For example, OCLC's Classify service basically says
"9 out of 10 cataloguers say the DDC number of this resource is ...". Such
critical mass is difficult to achieve in a local environment; we need to
have a global view. And that view will also expose differences in
terminology between cultures, sub-cultures, and contexts.
Exposing social tags, controlled vocabularies, and bibliographic metadata
sets as open linked data will allow critical mass to be reached.
And remember the baby-boomers: a bunch of highly-trained,
highly-experienced, highly-skilled cataloguers are moving into Lothlorien
via early and not-so-early retirement opportunities, and I'm sure many of
us would be more than happy to continue contributing to the great game,
especially on these emerging fringes.
Cheers
Gordon
On 29 March 2012 at 11:34 Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> vocabularies but it could be argued that with enough critical mass the most
> common, widely used terms will persist. Quite like the not professionally
> controlled way (at least not in the traditional sense) Wikipedia keeps it
> standards. And we professionals might learn how our users would like to
> call things...
>
> Esther (playing devil's advocate)
> > Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:03:54 +0100
> > Von: Karen Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > Betreff: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of
> > discussions
> > I'm beginning to think we should put our department cataloguing manual into
> > a wiki - its currently just in word format and needs overhauling anyway. It
> > would be good to be able to add all those extra bits that come up
> > throughout the year into one place.
> >
> > Re social tagging in catalogues - we are just implementing Primo (NOT my
> > favourite thing, but never mind), I think there is a facility in it to
> > allow users to tag books etc. I must admit I have my concerns about what
> > kinds of tags will be used, lack of consistency, etc. Our records already
> > have subject headings on them using controlled vocabularies, do they really
> > need random tags? Or am I just being an old-fashioned fuddy duddy? Do
> > students want to embrace their own tags and ignore our headings?
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > Dr Karen F. Pierce
> > Cataloguing Librarian
> > Cardiff University Information Services
> > 1st Floor, McKenzie House
> > 30-36 Newport Road
> > Cardiff
> > CF24 0DE
> >
> > http://darksideofthecatalogue.wordpress.com/
> > <http://darksideofthecatalogue.wordpress.com/>
> > http://scolarcardiff.wordpress.com/ <http://scolarcardiff.wordpress.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]>
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=CIG-E-FORUM%40jiscmail.ac.uk>
> > Date: 29/03/2012 10:57
> > Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of
> > discussions
> > Sent by: CIG E-Forum <[log in to unmask]>
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I was wondering if a small team would really need a wiki but with so
> > much detailed knowledge that none of us learned in library school (or
> > somewhere else) and that isn't in some edition (print or web) of AACR,
> > Dewey etc. I expect to find it useful - esp. for that things that only come
> > round once a year.
> >
> > On the topic of social tagging in catalogues: apart from the need for
> > critical mass there's also the question whether to moderate these things or
> > maybe a weighted way of ratings e.g. give staff or lecturers or
> > leaders/members of a reading group more weights. After all we're
> > information curators not just aggregators.
> >
> > Esther
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:49:38 +0200
> > Von: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]>
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=CIG-E-FORUM%40jiscmail.ac.uk>
> > Betreff: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:41:21 +0100
> > Von: Tabitha Driver <[log in to unmask]>
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Btabithad%40quaker.org.uk>
> > An: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]>
> > <https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de>
> > Betreff: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions
> >
> > Good morning from someone else who silently enjoyed yesterday's discussion
> > and helpful summary.
> >
> > Benefits of a wiki format for manuals etc seem great. We don't use them at
> > my library, because of the small number of staff, but for a larger
> > organisation, the collaborative character of a wiki, combined with version
> > control would be ideal. You'd still need editorial control though - which
> > is what concerns me about social tagging in smallish catalogues (not much
> > abt that yesterday?).
> > Tabitha Driver
> >
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