Under the heavy cloud of SOPA and PIPA any mention of blocking sites or content on the web makes me reach for my metaphorical gun ;-)
My point to you is serious - if you take the copyright argument to its logical conclusion Google would not be able to provide access to web content as its business model depends on effectively storing and indexing all content it can gain access to. And it makes a profit out of other people's content.
Paul Shackleton
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>>> Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]> 21/02/2012 11:34 >>>
Your words make me think you think I'm arguing with you :) I'm not. I am trying to form my own opinion.
Google differs in that users do not supply it with content, we, the site owners, do. Google does make money by search context sensitive advertising.
On 21 Feb 2012, at 11:23, Paul Shackleton wrote:
> But they provide user generated free advertising... so where does this put Google?
>
>
> Paul Shackleton
> System Administrator,
> Documentation and Collections Management Services,
> V&A Museum,
> Cromwell Road,
> South Kensington,
> London SW7 2RL.
> Tel. 020 7942 2359
>>>> Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]> 21/02/2012 11:19 >>>
> copyright law reflects the taking and republishing something without permission.
>
> Whether it is a brilliant site doing it or a rubbish one is not consideration. You can be mugged by a brilliant thief, but that makes the mugging no less of an unlawful act.
>
> Pinterest makes use of the images by republishing them. They take the work, in its entirety, without permission. If, one day, theur business model derives revenue based (eg) upon advertisnig placed next to yout copyright picture then they profit from your work.
>
> On 21 Feb 2012, at 11:12, Paul Shackleton wrote:
>
>> Pinterest is absolutely brilliant and I cannot imagine anyone wanting to block it. I can't see there would be any breach of copyright considering the link back, US copyright law, fair use, and the valuable traffic generated. Now if Pinterest the company started making use of the images that would be different, so can you please explain the issue here?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Paul Shackleton
>>
>>
>> Paul Shackleton
>> System Administrator,
>> Documentation and Collections Management Services,
>> V&A Museum,
>> Cromwell Road,
>> South Kensington,
>> London SW7 2RL.
>> Tel. 020 7942 2359
>>>>> Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]> 21/02/2012 11:06 >>>
>> I've been looking with some consternation at Pinterest, a site that allows folk to wander at will over the web, "pinning" pictures to their accounts. It's hailed as some sort of social media wonder toy. The picture is grabbed, published on Pinterest, and yes, a back-link to your site is created, a sort of quid pro quo for unpermissioned grabbing of your copyright picture. And yes, t takes the picture and lodges it on Pinterest. http://media-cdn.pinterest.com/upload/152207662376192781_Tt59L5pq_f.jpg is a picture of ours I experimented with myself. Note the url.
>>
>> That made me consider Copyright. In a nutshell, Pintertest relies on users not to break your copyright and relies on your noticing in order to issue take down notices.
>>
>> Today my attention was drawn to this: http://youtu.be/g3bmdE2BrmM (apologies if youtube is blocked in your office, your IT folk really need to get a grip. It talks about code snippets we can add to sites where we disallow pinning.
>>
>> What are your thoughts on Pinterest, copyright, and your site?
>>
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