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Subject:

Re: Lead Poisioning

From:

Peter Hutchison <[log in to unmask]>

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Arch-Metals Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:08:20 -0000

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Here is my pennorth for what it is worth.
My family lived in a house with lead pipes. The first job in the morning was 
to run the kitchen tap for some minutes "to clear the stale water out of the 
pipes". Soft water from Elan Valley. I believe the mains were iron
I still have a 60' lead service pipe. The first thing that happens in the 
morning is the toilet is flushed, so the water lurking in the lead pipe 
overnight ends up in the cistern which is close to the mains inlet. We used 
to have hard water from Parkmill which could have coated the service pipe. 
We now have soft water from Felindre. The mains are iron and asbestos 
cement.
I have no signs of any ill health that is likely to have been caused by lead 
and I am over 80. I do drink quite a lot of milk.
Peter Hutchison.

-----Original Message----- 
From: HJ HOPKINS
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Lead Poisioning

     Dear Trevor,

     An interesting question and one I've explored in my thesis and
beyond. Lead is dissolvable to an extent, which can cause problems.

     What are your housepipes made of and where does the water come
from? Are you in a hard or soft water area? What exactly are you doing
in the garden?

     There are a few 'learned behaviours' that warded off poisoning
when using lead, but these were mostly lost during the 20th century.

     I'd be interested to hear the outcomes in your investigation,

     Heather


Quoting Trevor <[log in to unmask]>:

> Dear List,
>
> Rather an odd one this which I direct to the scientific community  working 
> with metals.
>
> My wife and myself live in property dating from the early 17th  century 
> and which was adjacent to a lead smelting site which has  been dated to 
> the 16th/17th century. The garden of our property  contains relatively 
> large quantities of lead slag from this period  down to a depth of 2m. 
> This was discovered during archaeological  excavation.
>
> We have been subjected to periodic illness which doctors have been  unable 
> to diagnose. We have looked at many possible causes -  installing carbon 
> dioxide detectors which have not responded to its  presence, to the 
> installation of a water purifying system to prevent  any possible sources 
> of infection from water sources.
>
> We are now looking at poisoning as a possible diagnosis and note  that the 
> symptoms for lead poisoning are exactly what we appear to  be suffering.
>
> There are several questions which come to mind. Radon can cause ill 
> health through the decay of granites beneath a property. In the same 
> manner, can lead slogs decay to create toxicity within a property,  or the 
> garden of the property.
>
> Any insights into this issue would be very gratefully received.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Trevor & Patty Drunkenly



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