'Rats Arse' what a wonderful title for a poetry book! is it copyright?
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Sent: 06 January 2012 14:09
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Subject: Re: Periglis
local artists?
like sand on the shore
some of them are technically rather fine; and I used to go and visit one on
another island in particular who had a sort of open house for a few hours a
day when you could go and talk to him and he'd pretend to listen
room full of reasonably priced tourist bait and one bin of what really
interested him -- small details of rocks, odd shadows... photos and prints
and paintings -- but they didnt sell much
many technically proficient, but... Goes back to something Hockney said the
other day, which I have *some empathy with -- the need for tech ability and
for that element he called _poetry_
i expect he wouldnt tolerate what i would; i am quite interested in the
products of incompetence; but he's on to something
i used to say (without realising i *always said it) _what he/she does is
really rather well done; I just don't know why anyone would want to do it_
i stopped after someone said _i thought you'd say that; you always say that;
I don't find it funny any more: why don't you just say you think it's well
made rubbish_ & she was right, I suppose... now i just shove apples in my
cheeks and grin like that guy in Catch 22
*
someone on the islands i regard as a friend was nonplussed by my snapshots
book -- there's one about a diy weather vane and i emphasised that one to
him because it's really there, on the periglis shore actually so you can see
what i say i am describing - the poem's a straightforward thing about it and
its shadows and its inversions (maybe _normal_ people don't read things
backwards) -- seeing NES (Greek tourist slang for ersatz coffee) and SEN (as
in blood). I was pleased with it in a downbeat sort of way, and the whole
book was aimed at gig audiences who don't see themselves as followers of the
avantgarde -- I used to get quite a few of those... but my friend, who is
informed and intelligent, declared the book too intellectual for him
it's depressing... my poem was about as intellectual as a rat's arse
i have done the occasional peculiar postcard
b-c me an address and I might send you one
*
micturating
L
On Fri, January 6, 2012 13:40, Patrick McManus wrote:
> now, who shal i send THIS to? Those shals on the seashore??
>
>
> How about a series of postcards with your paintings on one side and
> porth poems on the other-or half and half -very yummy for the tourist
> trade (the upmarket bit!)- from local poet and artist etc don't bother
> with those poetry antpamphlets scene no money there!L Upton Cheers
> Patrick micturing wildly What about the Porth in the three
> musketeers!!(this is one of my very rare lit refs!) Are there porths
> in Portugal??
>
>
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> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 06 January 2012 12:39
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> Subject: Re: Periglis
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>
> Hi Patrick
>
>
>> L Powerful thanks seems deporthed??? I like the micture of massive
>> and tiny Sometimes we get three porths now it has flown with the
>> small thrush
>>
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>
> Once, I believe, I presented three porths, looking down the length of
> a bar dividing perconger and the cove (which must once have been
> called _porth_ before english prevailed. It was difficult to avoid and
> I lapsed -- at your prompt I did take another route; for which I thank
> you
>
> This, Perconger, is a very stony porth, swamped land, swamped over
> recent centuries -- that was undoubtedly in my mind, I refer to it in
> another verse -- and the tide goes out quite far. The difference
> between high and low is spectacular though you have to live there a
> day or 2 to get it
>
> _micture_ is what you get at the outflow of a communal urinal, surely
>
>
> i feel i have something right with your reference to _big and tiny_.
> That is there, in what the poemeye is looking at. No alps etc, you
> have to search for physical sublimes though the sea can be alarming if
> you think on it. It's the smallness and lowness of it all out in all
> that ocean, brevity of life among the aeons - the venerable bede
> running in at one door and out the other before we've had a chance to
> offer him a cup of tea [an allusion that will be quite silly if you
> don't know the ref... sorry... bede, i think it was he, likened a
> human life to a bird flying in and through and out of a room -- whoosh
> -- done
>
> i felt that this morning when i got out of bed
>
> i'll shut up now
>
> now, who shal i send THIS to?
>
> L
>
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>
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>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>> Sent: 06 January 2012 12:11
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>> Subject: Periglis
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>> Low tide. The sea has finished with this lot:
>> a stone gathering greater than the last judgment, every stone naked
>> of earth covering, visible; ocean shallowed of all tide power.
>>
>> This can be ignored. It is not the end of anything, only the dead
>> interval between quick and quicker events, big waves and plenty to
>> take our minds off a while.
>>
>> Nevertheless, it's here in this morning.
>> A herring gull gasps in lieu of a song and seems to shout "horror"
>> over the fields.
>>
>> Meanwhile, on a bough, a small thrush composes, choosing from
>> repertoires of known phrases, never quite repeating, not quite
>> repeating
>>
>>
>> [_Periglis_ from _Porth Eglos_ or _Landing Place at the Church_, -
>> _Porth_ has been taken as a synonym for _cove_ ]
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>> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
>> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
>> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
>> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
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UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
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