Hello ALL,
Until this discussion began emails from this group arrived in my mailbox without any conditions. Whatever happened over the last several days has now produced a "phishing" warning for incoming mail from the group. Any ideas, anybody?
Walt
Walter E. Trzcienski, Jr.
Adjunct professor
Earth & Planetary Sciences
Phone: 514-398-7442
email: [log in to unmask]
Frank Dawson Adams, 3450 University Street, Montreal
Quebec, Canada, H3A 2A7.
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From: Metamorphic Studies Group [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Jenkin, Gawen R.T. (Dr.) [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:33 AM
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Subject: Re: List reply to setting
All,
Settings changed to BOTH for a trial period.
Cheers,
Gawen
On 13/01/2012 06:52, "Nigel Harris" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Gawen. Given that the intuitively obvious solution of using 'Reply' or 'Reply All' buttons is not technically possible, I think we are back where we started. The 'Both' setting you suggest might offer a slight improvement in that it should prompt the sender to make a decision but otherwise I guess we can continue to enjoy watching colleagues fall into the heffalump trap.
Nigel
Professor of Tectonics
Earth Sciences
Open University
Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
Tel: +44 1908655171
On Thursday12 Jan 2012, at 16:48, Jenkin, Gawen R.T. (Dr.) wrote:
Re: List reply to setting
Thanks Clare and Richard Palin for suggesting creative solutions. Unfortunately listserv is an inflexible and quite arcane system written by computer scientist (for computer scientists), e.g. See warning text from the manual regarding this setting below
The options are simply, reply to:
List
Sender
Both
The latter might be good compromise as both addresses will appear in the To: field and you can edit out the one you don’t want – as long as you look at it.
Rob – surely no-one nowadays uses e-mail for hanky-panky – facebook, twitter and SMS! NB To avoid potential embarrassment of those visiting Britain in the future I should point out that here rumpy-pumpy has stronger connotations than hanky-panky, being exclusively confined to the act itself...
This is what we are up against!: “Warning: Setting this parameter guarantees only one thing – that LISTSERV will generate an appropriate RFC822 Reply-To: header in the mail it distributes to subscribers. There is unfortunately no guarantee that the mail transfer agent (MTA) or mail client on the receiving end will honor the Reply-To: header. This is because some mail clients, out-of-office robots, and Internet MTAs either simply do not recognize the existence of Reply-To: or do not implement it properly. Specifically, RFC2076 <http://www.rfc.net/rfc2076.html> "Common Internet Message Headers" reports that the use of Reply-To: is "controversial", which is defined as: "The meaning and usage of this header is controversial, i.e. different implementors have chosen to implement the header in different ways. Because of this, such headers should be handled with caution and understanding of the different possible interpretations." (RFC2076, page 4). While L-Soft recognizes that it is sometimes important to provide an explicit Reply-To: header to indicate a response path, L-Soft cannot be held responsible for problems arising from the inability of a remote server to properly process Reply-To: headers.”
Erm yes!
On 12/01/2012 16:06, "C.Warren" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
Could we set it so that "reply" goes to the sender and "reply-all" goes to the list? It would be great if there was an option to just reply to the sender without having to search for and re-type in their personal email address. That might solve the auto-pilot responses.
Regards,
Clare
On 12 Jan 2012, at 16:01, Jochen Mezger wrote:
I prefer the current setting out of pure economics, since most replies address the whole list. I do not mind the occasional false reply, because it really does not happen all too often. It's not that we get bombarded by them, or do we?
Ciao,
Jochen
At 16:49 12.01.2012, you wrote:
I dimly recall we discussed, voted on, and indeed changed the ‘reply to’ setting on the list to its present setting some years ago (reply to list, not reply to sender).
The argument put forward for the present setting was it made sure that it kept discussions going on the list, rather than them quickly defaulting to an off-list discussion between two people. Sure, it can catch people out if they don’t check the To field where is says Metamorphic Studies Group.
I can certainly change the setting. Anyone want to speak up for keeping it as it is? Send comments to the entire list, or if you want to just express a simple preference for one or the other then e-mail me direct.
Cheers,
Gawen
(geo-metamorphism listowner)
On 12/01/2012 15:32, "Nigel Harris" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> > > wrote:
Amen to Bob's plea. I was caught out in the early days of the MSG, one of the first of many innocent offenders. It is very easy to do and the current setup seems to have no merit.
Nigel
On Thursday12 Jan 2012, at 14:20, Robert Tracy wrote:
> Nope, Walt - innocent on this one!
>
> Can we get someone (the administrator of the list, perhaps?) to change the settings for the "Reply" default so that nobody else gets caught in this stupid boobytrap that has existed for years now? In contrast, the MSA-Talks listserv defaults, for a simple "Reply", to the sender of the message only, not to the whole list. If someone wants to respond to the list, they can hit "Reply All". We could of course remedy the situation by just being more careful, but most of us are moving too fast most of the time to be THAT careful.
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> Bob T.
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> Robert Tracy
> Professor of Geosciences
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg VA 24061-0420
> O: 540-231-5980
> F: 540-231-3386
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> On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Walter E Trzcienski Jr., Dr. wrote:
>
>> Damn It,
>>
>> Previous post was not meant for general consumption. My apologies to Ed.
>>
>> R. Tracy, you must have been lurking somewhere in the background.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>>
>> Walter E. Trzcienski, Jr.
>> Adjunct professor
>> Earth & Planetary Sciences
>> Phone: 514-398-7442
>> email: [log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> >
>> Frank Dawson Adams, 3450 University Street, Montreal
>> Quebec, Canada, H3A 2A7.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Metamorphic Studies Group [ [log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> > ] on behalf of Edward Ghent [[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> > ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:46 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> >
>> Subject: Re: Seminal Works in Metamorphic Petrology
>>
>> Hi Walt,
>>
>> I would include the following papers: Miyashiro's 1961 paper on paired belts
>> and facies series (J. Petrology) and J.B. Thompson's 1955 paper on the
>> thermodynamic basis for the mineral facies concept (AJS). If you need the
>> exact volumes and pages please let me know.
>> My wife died suddenly on October 31 and I am coping the best that I can. I
>> have an appointment as a Faculty Professor which entitles me to an office.
>> It is a special version of Emeritus and requires a specific appointment. I
>> still have an NSERC grant and one M.Sc. student.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Metamorphic Studies Group [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] On
>> Behalf Of Walter E Trzcienski Jr., Dr.
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> >
>> Subject: Seminal Works in Metamorphic Petrology
>>
>> MINSOC published in 2007 " Landmark Papers - Metamorphic Petrology" by
>> Bernard Evans. Because of space limitations I am sure that other works
>> were omitted. In putting together a seminar on seminal works in metamorphic
>> petrology I have found some interesting "older" works. Out of curiosity, in
>> addition to Bernard's selections, do members of this group have other papers
>> that they would include under the topic "Seminal Works in Metamorphic
>> Petrology"?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Walt Trzcienski
>>
>> Walter E. Trzcienski, Jr.
>> Adjunct professor
>> Earth & Planetary Sciences
>> Phone: 514-398-7442
>> email: [log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> <x-msg:[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]> >
>> Frank Dawson Adams, 3450 University Street, Montreal
>> Quebec, Canada, H3A 2A7.
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