Hi,
My blacklisting issue now has a GGUS entry.
https://ggus.eu/tech/ticket_show.php?ticket=74840
Chris.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:TB-
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Daniela Bauer
> Sent: 22 September 2011 10:18
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: CREAM problems (not just SGE)
>
> Well, in the last official cream-sge version I have to restart the
> blah parser every 8 h. Though this is fixed in the next one, if it
> ever sees the light of day ....
> In the previous (next to last release) I have to restart tomcat every
> 1-2 weeks, but I think that's a known tomcat issue, not cream.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniela
>
> On 22 September 2011 07:49, John Gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Marvin, the situation in other countries may be irrelevant but if it
> is similar it makes escalating this a lot easier. If it is just the UK
> then there will be pressure on us (you:-) ) to help debug.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean, etc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alessandra Forti [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 21 September 2011 17:55
> > To: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes
> > Cc: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC)
> > Subject: Re: CREAM problems (not just SGE)
> >
> > How about: most UK sites have to restart the cream services with a
> > frequency that goes from once a week to once every month/quarter (?)
> > depending on the size of the cluster and its load. Nobody wants to
> debug
> > it because it's not easy to pinpoint when exactly the services start
> > hanging and because it requires an intimate knowledge with the inner
> > workings of cream that nobody has (or wants to have).
> >
> > Whether other countries see the same should be irrelevant. Let's
> start
> > to count how many sites in the UK have this problem more than
> 5/10/15?
> >
> > And this setting aside my Marvin [1] like attitude towards tickets
> for
> > EGI services.
> >
> > cheers
> > alessandra
> >
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_the_Paranoid_Android
> >
> > On 21/09/2011 16:25, John Gordon wrote:
> >> So how should we articulate the feeling that something is a bit
> iffy. I think it is worth doing just to see if others feel the same.
> Either everyone else says it seems fine for us in which we shut up and
> stop whining OR everyone else says 'yes we were just thinking the same'
> in which case WLCG (or EGI) could escalate the issue.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:TB-
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ewan MacMahon
> >> Sent: 21 September 2011 14:10
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: CREAM problems (not just SGE)
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:TB-
> >>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matt Doidge
> >>>
> >>> My gut feeling is that
> >>> the batch/blah/cream communication isn't quite up to scratch.
> >>>
> >> That's generally our impression too, but that's really all
> >> it is. We certainly can submit tickets complaining that it's
> >> a bit crap, feels dodgy and has a distinct tendency to go
> >> squiffy on occasion, but I'm not sure that's useful.
> >>
> >> Tickets and bug reports and the like work well for the case
> >> of a basically decent thing with some specific problems. It
> >> just doesn't suit this sort of case where something appears
> >> to just be of generally poor quality.
> >>
> >> I think Stuart Purdie probably has the most intimate awareness
> >> of the varied ways in which CREAM/blah seem to be bad and why,
> >> so I suspect if anyone's going to be able to write coherent
> >> tickets it's him.
> >>
> >> Ewan
> >
>
>
>
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