Lazy moments are fine, Andrew
Patrick responded negatively to _without hope_ and I did not respond to
him then - my lazy moment
I think without hope is quite different, potentially, to hopeless. It can
be necessary even to resist hope in order to keep a clear judgment
clearer
best
L
On Wed, September 28, 2011 11:01, andrew burke wrote:
> I stole the 'wiothout hope' off Raymond Carver's advice ... Can't
> remember it word for word, but that part stuck in my mind - and seemed
> like good advice, once I'd thought through it.
>
> And 'great' is a blah word, useless and illthought. Sorry about that. A
> lazy moment.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 28 September 2011 15:30, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>> Well, I like the bit about _great_
>>
>>
>> although I have another narrative which eschews the word for all of us
>> as an illusion
>>
>> without hope?
>>
>> yes
>>
>> on we go
>>
>> L
>>
>>
>> On Tue, September 27, 2011 04:07, andrew burke wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, a number of us read them all, I'm guessing, without comment.
>>> They
>>> are often complete in themselves but also enhanced by their
>>> relationship with each other - a wave building up. I'm looking forward
>>> to the entire manuscript!
>>>
>>> Keep writing, Lawrence, keep writing without hope and without design.
>>> It
>>> will all happen mysteriously as all great poetry does.
>>>
>>> Andrew the Innocent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 September 2011 06:32, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I read them all, Lawrence, but dont always have much to say beyond
>>>> that (as
>>>> with the next little one),
>>>>
>>>> but I like the 'looking down' here...
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>> On 2011-09-25, at 3:47 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Looking down into heaped chaotic sky.
>>>>> Tumbled clothing of watery cloud overcast,
>>>>> showing much strong white. A small fishing boat slowly disturbs
>>>>> the tranquilised bay, followed by gulls flying themselves wave
>>>>> height
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Barbour
>>>> [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
>>>> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Latest books:
>>>> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
>>>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
>>>> Wednesdays'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-p
>>>> ress _10.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why poetry? And why not, I asked,
>>>> my right brain humming sedition.
>>>>
>>>> Phyllis Webb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Lawrence Upton
>> Dept of Music
>> Goldsmiths, University of London
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
> http://www.mullamullapress.com/QWERTY
> BLUE ROSE enovel avail. at Amazon, Smashwords and
> http://etextpress.com/books.htm
>
>
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UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
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Lawrence Upton
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London
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