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Re: differences in process between design and other creative disciplines.

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"Derek B. Miller" <[log in to unmask]>

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PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design <[log in to unmask]>

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Fil.

Your four points are spot on. I would say that  for some uses  there is other vocabulary that describes them, but doesn't challenge them. 

Some might argue that designing is only #1 and #2, whereas #3 is decision making, and #4 is planning.

Another way to slice it is to conceptualize it as strategy  goal, resources, methods, with a theory on the employment of resources through methods to reach the goal. Hence "ends, ways and means".

What is clear to us too is that you need to start with a mystery to solve or a solution to design. Then, we start to seek information, turn that into evidence for making claims, build theory for situated action, craft possible solutions that are reposed on that theory, and then select one of those solutions for actual employment.

All starts, though, with what you want to get done.

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On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Filippo A. Salustri wrote:

> For what it's worth, I have one anecdotal data point for you.
> 
> I was once involved in designing a system to suspend lighting in a small art
> gallery.  There was another professor from Ryerson there, for other reasons.
> We got to talking.  When we discovered that we both taught design, she
> asked me how I regard the design process.  I told her it's (1) figuring out
> what the needs really are, (2) generating lots of ideas, (3) choosing one
> based on some justifiable rationale, and (4) detailing it all out.
> 
> She said that was just how she taught it too.
> 
> Then she asked me what kind of design I taught.  I told her it was
> engineering design.
> 
> She was a font designer.
> 
> I'm convinced that designing - the overall process of it - is uniform or at
> least generalizable from every design discipline.  It's just the domain
> knowledge that changes.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Cheers.
> Fil
> 
> On 20 September 2011 19:30, McAuley, Mike <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Terry,
>> At the moment my net is cast very wide and is all encompassing. To describe
>> where I am at in analogical terms, I have just begun sketching and
>> thumbnailing. I am essentially just scoping at the moment. So there is no
>> unease for me at this point in time to be excluding any areas considered to
>> be within the field of design. So, if the differences are in the details, I
>> may well find them. Perhaps, at a certain level I will be able to argue
>> that, for example, the process of writing a song is the same as visually
>> illustrating a text. Although, already I am discovering that, because I
>> can't 'see' musical ideas, my process is very kinaesthetic, the sounds have
>> to exist in reality, not in my head.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Dr. MIKE MCAULEY
>> SENIOR LECTURER, SUBJECT DIRECTOR,
>> ILLUSTRATION
>> Institute of Communication Design
>> College of Creative Arts
>> Massey University
>> Museum Building
>> Buckle Street
>> Wellington
>> http://creative.massey.ac.nz<http://creative.massey.ac.nz/>
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> (04) 801 5799 ext 62461
>> (04 027 357 8799
>> 
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>> On Sep 21, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Terence Love wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> Are you also including engineering design and software design in your
>> 'creative disciplines'?
>> Terry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
>> research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> McAuley,
>> Mike
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 6:45 AM
>> To: Dr Terence Love
>> Subject: differences in process between design and other creative
>> disciplines.
>> 
>> I would be interested to know if anyone is doing work which seeks to
>> establish differences in process between design and other creative
>> disciplines such as music. Obviously outcomes/artefacts are different, but
>> are the processes the same?  If they are indeed the same, then why do we
>> differentiate the design process from the creative process? Questions,
>> questions.This is my new, post PhD research direction and one which I seek
>> to partly pursue through my own creative practice as a musician and
>> illustrator. In my previous work I used Swann's (2002) design process model
>> to help describe the processes of my illustration students when they
>> interpreted written text into illustrations. Here is the link to the thesis
>> if anyone is interested.http://mro.massey.ac.nz/handle/10179/1046
>> 
>> Creative practice as research method is a new venture for me, but I do
>> think
>> that having undergone the rigours of a traditional PhD I may now be in a
>> position to develop verifiable knowledge. If I don't, well I'm going to
>> have
>> a ball writing songs and painting! [log in to unmask]<mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Dr. MIKE MCAULEY
>> SENIOR LECTURER, SUBJECT DIRECTOR,
>> ILLUSTRATION
>> Institute of Communication Design
>> College of Creative Arts
>> Massey University
>> Museum Building
>> Buckle Street
>> Wellington
>> http://creative.massey.ac.nz<http://creative.massey.ac.nz/>
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> (04) 801 5799 ext 62461
>> (04 027 357 8799
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> \V/_
> Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng.
> Mechanical and Industrial Engineering
> Ryerson University
> 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON
> M5B 2K3, Canada
> Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749
> Fax: 416/979-5265
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/

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