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[Fwd: Re: Overground Landscape, New Cross Gate, staring East]

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Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:08:38 +0100

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that's

when the interisland pool was DRY

sorry

tired

L
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: Overground Landscape, New Cross Gate, staring East
From:    "Lawrence Upton" <[log in to unmask]>
Date:    Fri, August 5, 2011 17:45
To:      [log in to unmask]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ta

I think

Perhaps another station should be added

There is a joke I have heard told several times to uppety tourists on Scilly

as a context (this is a few square miles of rock scattered 30 miles into
the atlantic) I have been told of a woman who asked Where is the nearest
Marks and Spencer (an upmarketish store, for the benefit of non UK
readers) - the answer is more than 50 miles including air flight or three
hours on a ferry and then a train

and i have personally heard another hectoring a man on the quay there to
do something when the interisland pool was due at spring tide

anyway, the joke goes that you tell them they'll find what they want into
the town, just near the railway station

station? there are trains here?

oh yes

how common this is I do not know

I am never forget a tourist yelling at a Greek that they knew all about
Turkey and he, the Greek, was wrong - I was there 2 months you know, said
the tourist

but I quite like the idea of the joke

thanks for the thought

Just now I am trying to get something done about Southern trains.
Something violent and merciless

L



On Fri, August 5, 2011 17:29, Patrick McManus wrote:
> Big L some research here for your station poems
>
>
> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_train_stations_are_there_in_the_UK
>
>
>
> 'I reckon there are around 5,900
> stahttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_train_stations_are_there_in_the_UKti
> on s, including those on heritage or private railways, proposed stations
> and London Underground.
>
>
> Not a definitive answer - but a start!
>
>
> A better answer:
>
>
> without closed down stations or underground stations it is 2656.
>
> i counted those listed on wikipedia and including closed down stations it
> is 9458. (not including underground stations)
>
>
> At the moment there are 311 underground stations and there are 43
> underground stations that were once open and now have closed, soo..
>
> In total all the stations closed now or still open in the uk is: 9812.'
>
>
> A few anthologies there lets say at 5 stations per day??
> Cheers Patrick
>
>
> Read more:
> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_train_stations_are_there_in_the_UK#ixzz
> 1U
> AkdMJIU
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 03 August 2011 16:56
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Overground Landscape, New Cross Gate, staring East
>
>
> Hi Doug
>
>
>> You get into it, Lawrence, _tell_ the place...
>>
>
> I try Doug. I tire of pretty pictures, if you know what I mean. I took
> some rolls of SLR film some years ago in which I excluded most human works
>  from a holiday by careful framing, just to see if I could; and my
> mother-in-law was expostulating worries about the wilderness I had led
> her daughter to; and then I showed her the same walks a second time round
> where I didn't evade the cables and water pipes
>
> I used some of it in teaching later
>
>
>> There's one thing I'm not sure of, which you may deliberately have done
>>  for syntax & argument
>
> rhetoric! and maybe metrics - certainly I can't just cut them out and
> must rewrite
>
> You've made me look at it again. One is an opportunity lost or a bit of
> laziness and I shall return to it - I think I have a fix. Another as in
> _that is hard to say_ is I think right. I want that ambling slowness
> there; but I shall look at it all again in the morning and I am grateful to
> you
>
> You replied to the naff draft btw the one with the naff last line. That
> version is standing in the corner for the rest of time.
>
> Best
>
>
> L
>
>
>
>> Doug
>> On 2011-08-03, at 4:47 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> My shadow extends from an old roof's darkness.
>>> Fat neck and head lean off the platform
>>> and across the track into some weeds climbing the fence, which is a
>>> harsh spiteful structure rising to points to disembowel us.
>>>
>>> As to its colour, that is hard to say
>>> in the light. Imagining daft paintcard names, I'd call it Boredom; or
>>> Ennui; or Dearth.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farther back, there's dead space that's never used.
>>> Not much grows there. A box with skull and bones
>>> portrayed on its lid or door. Something powerful. Soil round's
>>> impacted. Far back, there's a wall
>>> upon which every graffito slants down rather, perhaps fifteen degrees
>>> -
>>> enough to hurl cyclists descending hills - like tilt of the roof
>>> shadow's line. The wall is good; there is detail and difference. And
>>> then an undesigned lowrise; with tower block behind that, also lacking
>>>  thought; and sky, vague as a loose clout of weak undercoat on the
>>> kitchen wall - something to stop plaster becoming even more friable -
>>> but not an atmosphere to support one flying creature. Snails get three
>>> feet up the wall of my house; and stop, dead, poisoned by the paint we
>>> used to show off, till some hungry winter bird or a playful cat pokes
>>> at them. They fall, no longer worth eating. That sort of sky.
>>>
>>> And the sound track is a complicated mix:
>>> trains hasten through the station; people shout at each other, when
>>> they could speak; train times broadcast at random; train apologies;
>>> incoherent spluttering; messages breaking or overlaying each other;
>>> aircraft; traffic; and, to the north, party music, raucous, violently
>>> amplified:
>>> the triumph of the mobile and the mob.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
>>> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
>>> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
>>> wfuk.org.uk/blog ---- Lawrence Upton
>>> Dept of Music
>>> Goldsmiths, University of London
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Douglas Barbour
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
>> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Latest books:
>> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
>> Wednesdays'
>> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_
>> 10
>> .html
>>
>>
>>
>> It is natural to speak of your own weaknesses so winsomely they will
>> seem strengths, as if everyone else is inadequate if they do not have
>> your inadequacies.
>>
>> William H. Gass
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -----
> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
> Lawrence Upton
> Dept of Music
> Goldsmiths, University of London
>
>


-----
UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
----
Lawrence Upton
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London


-----
UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
wfuk.org.uk/blog
----
Lawrence Upton
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London

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