I should add that although Europe is developing tools to assist in the recognition of degrees, this does not
take away the right of an individual course director to select students according to the advertised pre-requisites.
In that academics are still 'free'.
Professor Paul D. Ryan
EOS, NUI, Galway, Ireland
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From: Tectonics & structural geology discussion list on behalf of Mary-Caroline Burberry
Sent: Fri 8/5/2011 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: BSc to PhD?
It seems to me that it's not the official "name" of the degree that is the pre-requisite for a PhD but the amount the student knows and time they have actually spent studying geology.
I trained in the British system where we studied next to nothing but geology for the 3 or 4 years of the undergraduate, and am now teaching in the US system where my students have to take a large amount of general education classes and therefore spend around 40% of their time actually studying geology, over a 4-5 year average time in undergrad. After the undergrad degree, my US students have to go on to a Masters pre-PhD so that they can improve their knowledge of (often) core geology. We currently have at least one MSc student here who has never had a structural geology class. I'd be very skeptical indeed of taking on a student as a PhD student with the 50% general education credits that many of my undergrads have, even if the student in question had been in university for years.
I don't know how these systems compare to the EU system, having never been a part of it.
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