Very much a human agency, Doug. I only got it working this afternoon and am
still playing around with it. I remember 20 years ago taking texts generated
by a computer speech programme called Racter and making poems from the
material, doing the same as Gnoetry by hand, as it were. It does give a
lovely feeling of banks of old hierarchies dissolving at a whisper.
On 31 July 2011 17:13, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Yeah, I see that; & you get to choose the texts, so there's that human
> input, still, somehow, some way....
>
> Doug
> On 2011-07-31, at 9:54 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>
> > I think it has potential, Doug. Here's another, a tanka this time:
> >
> > The Hotel Machine
> >
> >
> > It is a vast dome
> >
> > glowing with a love for each
> >
> > other. The ore in
> >
> >
> > the light. We learn all you are
> >
> > in themselves so easily.
> >
> >
> >
> > Texts:
> >
> > Horatio Alger Jr., Joe The Hotel Boy
> >
> > A. Maude Royden, Sex And Common-Sense
> >
> > H. G. Wells, The Time Machine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 31 July 2011 16:03, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps as footnote one says, 'Gnoetry acts as a proof to Wittgenstein’s
> >> dictum that “a poem, even though it is composed of the language of
> >> information is not used in the language-game of giving information”
> (Zettel
> >> §160).'
> >>
> >> But that can still be true of ones we write without mechanical aid.
> >>
> >> So, I'm intrigued, but remain somewhat true to mysel(ves), as I suspect
> you
> >> still do, too, David.
> >>
> >> Doug
> >> On 2011-07-31, at 7:22 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> >>
> >>> Firstly, this link gives a manifesto, I'm not posting it as necessarily
> >>> being support for any views of mine but perhaps as a statement of
> intent,
> >> if
> >>> that word can be used, it's a useful proclamation:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.womenwriters.net/digitaleves/gnoetry.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> While here's a link for an automated diastic poem maker:
> >>>
> >>> eDiastic: Poetry Generation using a Diastic Reading
> >>> technique<http://www.eddeaddad.net/eDiastic/>
> >>>
> >>> And this is a link for installing Gnoetry 0.2 (you do need Ubuntu in
> one
> >>> form or another)
> >>>
> >>> Gnoetry 0.2 – Download and Install Howto « Markovian Parallax Generate:
> >> On
> >>> digital writing and
> >>> poetics<
> >>
> http://mchainpoetics.wordpress.com/gnoetry-0-2-download-and-install-howto/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and finally here's debut Gnoem I made:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A Bartleby Christmas
> >>>
> >>> The natives, then the instance of a child:
> >>> a man. A virgin and a few. Expect
> >>> the second fall, in his accustomed voice,
> >>> replied the girl, appearing from the lines.
> >>>
> >>> The copies, and the other two. In what,
> >>> the air, about the sun the weather was
> >>> surrounded. It arises from the next
> >>> gradation, and the ghost, in this. In what,
> >>>
> >>> the moon. The sea, upon the ground. In what,
> >>> the objects fall, described in one respect.
> >>> In what, the room the day, in silence for
> >>> a shade. The data of the ceiling, man.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Texts:
> >>> Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol
> >>> Herman Melville, Bartleby, The Scrivener
> >>> Charles Fort, Book of the Damned, The
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> best
> >>>
> >>> dave
> >>> --
> >>> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> >>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>
> >> Douglas Barbour
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >> Latest books:
> >> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >> Wednesdays'
> >>
> >>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
> >>
> >> It is natural to speak of your own weaknesses so winsomely they will
> seem
> >> strengths, as if everyone else is inadequate if they do not have your
> >> inadequacies.
> >>
> >> William H. Gass
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Joseph Bircumshaw
> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> Douglas Barbour
> [log in to unmask]
>
> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
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>
> Latest books:
> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> Wednesdays'
>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
>
> It is natural to speak of your own weaknesses so winsomely they will seem
> strengths, as if everyone else is inadequate if they do not have your
> inadequacies.
>
> William H. Gass
>
--
David Joseph Bircumshaw
Website and A Chide's Alphabet
http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
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