Ron Macaulay has described the use of the "terminal tag" 'and that'
in contemporary Scottish speech. The former coal miner Macaulay
studied used one terminal tag per 60 words in narrative; 40% of these
were 'and that'. I don't know of any descriptions of this particular
form in the US besides in Pittsburgh (and I've looked!).
Ref: Macaulay, Ronald. 1985. The narrative skills of a Scottish coal
miner. In Focus on: Scotland, ed. Manfred Goerlach, 101-124.
Amsterdam/Philadelphia: John Benjamins Publishing Company, pp.
112-114.
Barbara
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Flanigan, Beverly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Pittsburgh has a similar associative plural, I believe: "an' 'at" < "and that." I've heard it from only one person here in Southeast Ohio, our former police chief, who came from SW Pennsylvania; it's the equivalent of "etc." for him. Anybody know how widespread it is?
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> Beverly Flanigan
> Ohio University
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> I would argue that the "dem" plural and the "an'(d)em" form, sometimes called
> the associative plural, are two very different structures. "John and them"
> doesn't mean "more than one John". And they may have very different histories.
> I associate the first with varieties with creole input, while the second is
> more widespread (for example, it's extremely common here in Newfoundland).
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