Gracias.
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From: "HOLMES R." <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
> There do appear to be various ways around the problem, which work for some
> and not for others. Elsevier's 'solution' may be alright for individuals
> using their own computers at home, but impractical in an institutional
> setting.
>
> The problem for large institutions is how to ensure that everybody has
> nothing later than version 9 on their machine? I imagine I would encounter
> some stiff opposition if I asked our IT department to roll back all the
> university's computers to version 9 and never upgrade Adobe Reader again
> until ScienceDirect is fully compliant.
>
> Unticking the boxes under Edit -> Preferences -> Internet only forces the
> PDF to view in the separate viewer application rather than in the browser
> window. As has been mentioned before, this causes problems with most ebook
> platforms, which load pages one at a time as separate PDFs. I can't view
> in this way anyway because our popup blocker won't let me, even if I
> 'allow' it to. Many of our computers are locked down so users can't change
> settings as well.
>
> Why is this only a problem with Elsevier? What do they do to their PDF
> files that other major publishers do not?
>
> Richard Holmes
> Library Assistant: e-Resources Co-ordinator
> Durham University Library
> Stockton Road
> Durham
> DH1 3LY
> United Kingdom
>
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>
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> Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dominic
> Benson
> Sent: 21 July 2011 11:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> All
>
> If you read the recent comments here:
> http://download.cnet.com/Adobe-Reader-X/3000-10743_4-10000062.html
> the advice seems to be to stick to Adobe Reader 9:
> http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/ (for WinXP at least).
>
> Regards,
>
> Dom
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> Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Axel
> Tiderman
> Sent: 21 July 2011 07:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [lis-e-resources] SV: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> Hello,
>
> We have this problem too. It only occurs on some article PDFs in
> ScienceDirect.
> Elsevier has suggested that we should
> A. Untick the box show PDF in reader. Did not work.
> B. Switch to FoxIt reader<http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>. Works
> but we cannot do this as it doesn’t work with some of our e-books.
>
> There is also another problem that it is not always possible to save the
> PDF. So this work around is not always open.
> What always seems to work is to e-mail the article to yourself. Then it is
> savable and printable. But try to put that one into a users guide!
>
> Anyway our patrons use their own computers with their preferred software
> and it should be up to ScienceDirect to see that the PDFs work with all
> reasonably new and common operating systems, web browsers and PDF-readers.
>
> One of the articles that does not work for us is
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg&_imagekey=B83W8-51KK2B1-7-1&_cdi=33780&_user=650414&_pii=S0929664610601283&_origin=search&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2010&_sk=998909988&view=c&wchp=dGLbVlz-zSkWb&md5=541d7b5b37e16045dd25f4bf0c9f3625&ie=/sdarticle.pdf
>
> I tried to untick all the three boxes as you suggested and it was possible
> print the article but I still couldn’t save it. (Save icon is inactive.)
> We have to test this further.
>
>
> /Axel
>
>
>
> Axel Tiderman
> Linkoping University Library
> Electronic Resources
> S-581 83 Linkoping
> Sweden
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> Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Robinson, Sharon
> Skickat: den 20 juli 2011 18:24
> Till: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> Hi,
>
> Elsevier have come back to me, saying that they have found a solution to
> this issue. You go into Adobe X, click edit, then preferences, internet,
> then untick the 3 boxes which are ticked.
> I've tried this and it doesn't work in either browser for me. I was
> wondering if it works for anyone who is having a similar problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sharon
>
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> On Behalf Of Robinson, Sharon
> Sent: 08 July 2011 13:48
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> Hi Mies and Richard,
>
> Thanks for coming back to me. I'm still having a problem with Firefox as
> well as IE. Yes, I can right click and save the pdf, but even this is not
> intuitive for users who are going to want to save, after opening the pdf,
> by using the icon. I have suggested to Elsevier that they need to work
> something out.
>
> Sharon
>
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> On Behalf Of Mies
> Sent: 08 July 2011 12:52
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> We're also seeing this. I've quickly tested the pdf saving function in
> Chrome, Opera and FireFox and I've found no difficulties. The only thing
> that seem to work with IE was to right click on the pdf link, save the
> file and then open it in Adobe.
>
>
>
> This is absolutely annoying. Now how am I going to explain this to our
> users without them looking at me crossed eyed and think I'm a bit loony?
>
>
>
> Mies
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> Mies Martin
> Digital Resource Coordinator
> J.R. Van Pelt / Opie Library
> Michigan Technological University
> 1400 Townsend Dr.
> Houghton , Mi 49931
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HOLMES R." < richard . holmes @DURHAM.AC.UK>
> To: LIS-E-RESOURCES@ JISCMAIL .AC.UK
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 7:30:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> There is a brief discussion of this on the Adobe forum at http
> ://forums.adobe.com/thread/794935?decorator=print& displayFullThread =true
>
> Another option appears to be to force the PDF to load into the PDF Reader
> application itself, rather than in the web browser. Load the Reader
> application then go to Edit --> Preferences --> Internet then un-tick the
> option to 'Display PDF in browser' . The user who brought this problem to
> my attention says this allowed him to then save the PDF , although it does
> not appear to work for me. I am able to right-click the PDF on the
> ScienceDirect site and select 'save as' , but he says the option to save
> is absent when he tries that.
>
> Both of the above are only workarounds and neither is ideal.
>
> Richard Holmes
> Library Assistant: e-Resources Co-ordinator Durham University Library
> Stockton Road Durham
> DH1 3LY
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0)191 334 2944
> Fax: +44 (0)191 334 2971
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Community [ mailto :LIS-E-RESOURCES@ JISCMAIL .AC.UK] On Behalf Of HOLMES
> R.
> Sent: 08 July 2011 12:16
> To: LIS-E-RESOURCES@ JISCMAIL .AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> Yes, we have this problem too. Can you right-click on the PDF and select
> 'Save as...'?
>
> Richard Holmes
> Library Assistant: e-Resources Co-ordinator
> Durham University Library
> Stockton Road
> Durham
> DH1 3LY
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0)191 334 2944
> Fax: +44 (0)191 334 2971
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information
> Community [ mailto :LIS-E-RESOURCES@ JISCMAIL .AC.UK] On Behalf Of Sharon
> Robinson
> Sent: 08 July 2011 12:03
> To: LIS-E-RESOURCES@ JISCMAIL .AC.UK
> Subject: [lis-e-resources] ScienceDirect and Adobe X
>
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone else having problems saving pdfs on ScienceDirect when using
> either Firefox or Internet Explorer 8 and Adobe X. When a pdf is opened
> and you try to save it using the save icon, nothing happens. I've reported
> this to Elsevier , but they said that Adobe don't provide support and are
> unwilling to comment on the issue. Elsevier have suggested using Foxit . I
> have pointed out that their product should be compatible with the most
> widely used reader.
>
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