Anna is the treasurer, though in the middle of finals at the moment, so
she might not be very communicative for a week or so.
  Dave

On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Ian B Dunne wrote:

> Interesting thoughts.
>
> Is it a good aphorism to use when trying to engage children and the public?
>
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> On 02/06/2011 11:31, Dominic McDonald wrote:
> >
> > where does a Darwinistic nightmare come into it?
> >
> > If Nature is really our guide, then it's probably a Nature which is
> > red in tooth and claw...
> >
> > *From:*psci-com: on public engagement with science
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Kimberley Bartholomew
> > *Sent:* 02 June 2011 11:15
> > *To:* [log in to unmask]
> > *Subject:* Re: [PSCI-COM] What do you think?
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I'm reminded of John Nash in A Beautiful Mind, snubbing classes at
> > grad school ("they will dull your mind..."), declaring that his
> > classmates were "memorising the weak assumptions of lesser mortals!"
> > Perhaps modern-day Romantics, more enlightened souls, are shouting the
> > same at scientists?  :-)
> >
> > I'm not in the most existential mood, but where does a Darwinistic
> > nightmare come into it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim
> >
> > On 06/02/11 11:09, Booth Marilyn (RB) wrote:
> >
> > Ben and Ian
> >
> > Ben is right.  The Romantics were all about the awe-inspiring power of
> > Nature (at least in their younger early days of writing before
> > becoming more conventional as they aged.  Their philosophy was also
> > tied in with a reaction against growing industrialism and an embracing
> > of the ethos of the French Revolution etc.
> >
> > If I remember correctly, there was also a British Science Festival
> > session a couple of years ago which looked at the role of Coleridge in
> > the early days of the Festival - and there's always the book by
> > Richard Holmes on the links between Romanticism and sciences (or
> > natural philosophy as they might have termed it).
> >
> > Marilyn
> >
> >     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     *From:*psci-com: on public engagement with science
> >     [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Ben Johnson
> >     *Sent:* 02 June 2011 11:00
> >     *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >     *Subject:* Re: [PSCI-COM] What do you think?
> >
> >     Hi Ian and all,
> >
> >     I am a little confused by your confusion.  The poem is a pretty
> >     straight forward enunciation of the Romanic manifesto as it was
> >     evolving at that time.  Essentially, the romantics were eager to
> >     embrace all possible forms of human experience, including the wild
> >     and non-rational (his flashing eyes, his floating hair).  It would
> >     be unrealistic to think that a poet like Wordsworth eschews books
> >     (Books! 'tis a dull and endless strife - elsewhere in the same
> >     poem).  Rather the poem is an exhortation to seek inspiration from
> >     Nature against the context of dry and well ordered knowledge.  It
> >     is worth bearing in mind that the poem first appeared in a
> >     collection called Lyrical Ballads in 1798.  That volume was edited
> >     by a young Bristol based Chemist from Cornwall called Humphry
> >     Davy, then considered a promising poet and interesting researcher..
> >
> >     Dont be confused by references to art or science as the terms were
> >     used in quite a different way back then.  Also Darwin's Origin is
> >     still some 60 years in the future, so that may be a red herring.
> >
> >     pip pip
> >
> >     b
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> >     *From:*psci-com: on public engagement with science
> >     [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Ian B Dunne
> >     *Sent:* 02 June 2011 10:36
> >     *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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> >     Hi
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> >     Apologies for cross posting but I want to see what the different
> >     forums make of this.
> >
> >     I recently came across the phrase " Let nature be your teacher" it
> >     comes from a poem by Wordsworth, he of daffodil fame and much else.
> >
> >     But I found my self contemplating its meaning while stuck in a
> >     traffic jam and I cannot make up my mind whether it is just plane
> >     Hippy and a tad dippy, inspirational and moving or a vision of a
> >     Darwinistic nightmare.
> >
> >     Your thoughts?
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