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Re: OCC-HEALTH Digest - 12 Jun 2011 to 13 Jun 2011 (#2011-180)

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 Hi Grant

We never did go out for drinks : (    .......but  I wish you good luck in your new venture .

Kind Regards,

Rona Estwick



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There are 14 messages totaling 4011 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. sleep disorders and clinics
  2. Thankyou and till me meet again! (2)
  3. looks for reshearch/evidence skin hand gels v soap
  4. Vision screeners - views please (pun intended)
  5. Kneeling (8)
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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:47:55 +0100
From:    Sarah L Redfearn <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: sleep disorders and clinics

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:20:49 +0100
From:    "Argyle, Ruth (Occupational Health Nurse)"
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Subject: Re: Thankyou and till me meet again!

Good Luck
Ruth x

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Sent: 12 June 2011 18:21
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Thankyou and till me meet again!

Best of luck to you Grant x

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:53:07 +0100
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Thankyou and till me meet again!
To: [log in to unmask]
Dear esteemed colleagues,

I am not one to contribute regularly to the list as many of the postings have often  reflected dilemmas in my area of practice and the replies given have always been useful in resolving the issues I have faced. This list has proven invaluable, as well as the various attachments which I have kept and archived for future reference and use

This is my last posting as I will be emigrating to Singapore shortly  where I have been offered a fantastic opportunity there and accepted it without any hesitation.  Not that the remuneration package had anything to do with it!

I have even met a number of list colleagues who have become dear friends.

I have gained much from the list, my practice has been enhanced and the organisations I have worked for have benefitted as they have seen their absence rates reduced.

I am not sure if  I will be able to rejoin the list after my relocation to Singapore but will endeavour to do so.  For those of you who are also members of the UK Occupational Health Practitioners Facebook page, this will continue to be updated on a regular basis.

All that is left for me to thank you all for disseminating and sharing  your practice information  I am certain I will be able to use it in my new role.

I wish you all much great and continued success in your careers.

Grant


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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:04:56 +0100
From:    "Aziz, Bashyr" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thankyou and till me meet again!

Hi Grant

I am sure everyone on the list will miss you and all the hard work you put into the FB page.  Hope all goes wonderfully well for you in Singapore, and we look forward to continuing to receive words of wisdom from you once you've found your feet in Singapore.

All the best

Bashyr



From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Grant Ciccone
Sent: 12 June 2011 17:53
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Thankyou and till me meet again!



Dear esteemed colleagues,



I am not one to contribute regularly to the list as many of the postings have often  reflected dilemmas in my area of practice and the replies given have always been useful in resolving the issues I have faced. This list has proven invaluable, as well as the various attachments which I have kept and archived for future reference and use



This is my last posting as I will be emigrating to Singapore shortly where I have been offered a fantastic opportunity there and accepted it without any hesitation.  Not that the remuneration package had anything to do with it!



I have even met a number of list colleagues who have become dear friends.



I have gained much from the list, my practice has been enhanced and the organisations I have worked for have benefitted as they have seen their absence rates reduced.



I am not sure if  I will be able to rejoin the list after my relocation to Singapore but will endeavour to do so.  For those of you who are also members of the UK Occupational Health Practitioners Facebook page, this will continue to be updated on a regular basis.



All that is left for me to thank you all for disseminating and sharing your practice information  I am certain I will be able to use it in my new role.



I wish you all much great and continued success in your careers.



Grant




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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:16:41 +0100
From:    Susan Gorton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: looks for reshearch/evidence skin hand gels v soap

Without moisturization anyone can get skin dryness. Staff can moisturise theri skin AS LONG AS they are not going to wear gloves in the 10 minutes afterwards so that hyperhydration of the skin does not occur.

keeping 1 acqueous cream in their pocketand using it before breaks or any other opportunity wear gloves are not likley to be worn for 10 minutes,  is the best solution to skin dryness and a if its her nails then maybe some more robust crean at night during winter  may be helpful.

Sue

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>>> p cranney <[log in to unmask]> 10/06/2011 18:06 >>>
Dear List
I have recently seen a client who works in a healthcare setting , uses hand gel in between clients with each change of glove.
Skin problems have arisen , mild dryness, but I need to look at "soap vs. hand gel when used with gloves" evidence for change.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Or has anyone had similar issues?

regards
Pauline

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:16:28 +0100
From:    Lindsey Hall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Vision screeners - views please (pun intended)

Hi all



My personal view - and it is a personal view and not one based on science - is that I agree with some of what you say but the looking and being more professional bit is a very important part of what we do.  I have used different vision screeners over the years and also a snellen chart which
when using different venues is not something I have found easy.   I don't
feel particularly professional sticking a snellen chart on a wall with a bit of blue tack or micropore, measuring out the required distance - often round various bits of furniture in a small space,  putting a bit of tape on the floor and then asking the client to stand behind it and cover up each eye with card, hands, book or whatever.  The client invariably leans backwards or forwards, depending on their level of long or short sightedness introducing a too much room for error and blurs the eye you're going to test
next.   I also think there is too much room for error when judging degrees
of peripheral vision.   Much better to have a box that takes those potential
errors away.  I agree that we only screen and don't diagnose but I feel far less challengeable with a properly set up machine.



Thanks



Lindsey





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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of chrisandjane
Sent: 11 June 2011 21:42
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Vision screeners - views please (pun intended)



Hi everyone



I have been doing a fair bit of vision screening recently and I'm beginning to question what the value is of vision screen machines - e.g. Keystone, Optec, Titmus - compared with Snellen charts and near vision booklets (+ Ishihara for colour blind test if necessary).  Are they worth the additional expense and bother of transporting?  If there is a concern from a DSE user perspective, would they not be better having a full eye test by an optician, as per DSE Regs?  Is there a time when using the machines has a definite advantage over simple charts?  Or are we just using them to look more professional?



I'd really value your opinions.



Thanks in advance



Jane Lilley





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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lindsey Hall
Sent: 11 June 2011 3:34 PM
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Vision screeners - buying and selling



Hi all



I have two Optec 5500 Vision screeners  that I am looking to sell (excellent condition and hardly used) . They are fantastic machines to have mostly in one place but not great for portable use.  Not too heavy but big.  Hence I am looking for something smaller and interested in any keystones out there.
If anyone is interested in buying the Optecs and/or selling keystones or similar then please contact me off list on [log in to unmask] or mobile number below.



Thanks



Lindsey



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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:07:45 +0100
From:    jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Kneeling

Hi and happy Monday
I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.
I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.
When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.
anyone got any ideas?
Jacqui

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:11:57 +0100
From:    "Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

Carpet fitters wear knee pads, as do roofers and other similar trades.
They`re not pretty, personally would avoid wearing them with a skirt.

There are a few chairs/stools that utilise kneeling as an adjunct in managing back pain - depends what she is doing on her knees I suppose.....try Posturite

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Sent: 13 June 2011 15:08
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling



Hi and happy Monday

I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.

I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.

When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.

anyone got any ideas?

Jacqui


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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:26:14 +0100
From:    "Dyer, Nina {PI}" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

You can get trousers with ready - made pockets for the pads to fit in.

Lots of tradesmen use them - my other half buys his from ARCO

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Sent: 13 June 2011 15:12
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling



Carpet fitters wear knee pads, as do roofers and other similar trades.
They`re not pretty, personally would avoid wearing them with a skirt.



There are a few chairs/stools that utilise kneeling as an adjunct in managing back pain - depends what she is doing on her knees I suppose.....try Posturite



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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of jacqui livock
Sent: 13 June 2011 15:08
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling

Hi and happy Monday

I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.

I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.

When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.

anyone got any ideas?

Jacqui


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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:54:55 +0100
From:    Karen Coomer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

Hi Jacqui

What about a kneeling pad instead - like gardeners use.



However, check out the following for a suspender style knee pad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsAzrgGqDNU



Regards

Karen



From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of jacqui livock
Sent: 13 June 2011 15:08
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling



Hi and happy Monday

I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.

I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.

When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.

anyone got any ideas?

Jacqui

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:02:33 +0100
From:    "Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

Having a discussion about fees for writing reports here - a physio collegue has been asked to give some information re his clients (obviously with consent)  in an OHS setting for the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board. A fee has been offered but he is unsure where to pitch this - I have suggested looking honestly at how much time it will take going through the notes, preparing a report etc and then charge according to his hourly rate. Any physio colleagues out there can give us a steer? - probably off list better

Sharon Naylor
HMPS Occupational Health Advisor
*Please note new number at Lartin*
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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:19:05 +0100
From:    jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

HI
these are what I know about.I have them in my gardening trousers and they are the best 20 i have ever spent however his lady deals with kids in a professional setting and a pair of workpants are not really a viable option- only kneeling pads I can find are high density foam the type gardeners use.

Jacqui




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Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 15:26:14
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling


You can get trousers with ready - made pockets for the pads to fit in.
Lots of tradesmen use them - my other half buys his from ARCO From:[log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling

Carpet fitters wear knee pads, as do roofers and other similar trades. They`re not pretty, personally would avoid wearing them with a skirt.


There are a few chairs/stools that utilise kneeling as an adjunct in managing back pain - depends what she is doing on her knees I suppose.....try Posturite


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Sent: 13 June 2011 15:08
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling
Hi and happy Monday
I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.
I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when
she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.
When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on
their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and
the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with
a skirt or suit trousers.
anyone got any ideas?
Jacqui

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:16:59 +0100
From:    Suzanne Vaughan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

Hi,

Rather than knee pads, could she have a kneeling mat, (couple of pounds), which is lightweight, that she can use when she has to kneel.  Regards Suzanne





From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of jacqui livock
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HI

these are what I know about.I have them in my gardening trousers and they are the best 20 i have ever spent however his lady deals with kids in a professional setting and a pair of workpants are not really a viable option- only kneeling pads I can find are high density foam the type gardeners use.


Jacqui



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From: "Dyer, Nina {PI}" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 15:26:14
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling

You can get trousers with ready - made pockets for the pads to fit in.

Lots of tradesmen use them - my other half buys his from ARCO

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]
Sent: 13 June 2011 15:12
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling



Carpet fitters wear knee pads, as do roofers and other similar trades. They`re not pretty, personally would avoid wearing them with a skirt.



There are a few chairs/stools that utilise kneeling as an adjunct in managing back pain - depends what she is doing on her knees I suppose.....try Posturite



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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of jacqui livock
Sent: 13 June 2011 15:08
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling

Hi and happy Monday

I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.

I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.

When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.

anyone got any ideas?

Jacqui


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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:07:25 +0100
From:    Susan Gorton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

Or the ones they sell at rugby matches (to sit on but made out of the
same stuff) as they have a dinky little inbuilt handle for carrying it
around.

Sue

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>>> jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]> 13/06/2011 16:19:05 >>>
HI
these are what I know about.I have them in my gardening trousers and
they are
the best 20 i have ever spent however his lady deals with kids in a
professional setting and a pair of workpants are not really a viable
option-
only kneeling pads I can find are high density foam the type gardeners
use.

Jacqui




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From: "Dyer, Nina {PI}" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 15:26:14
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling


You can get trousers with ready - made pockets for the pads to fit in.

Lots of tradesmen use them - my other half buys his from ARCO
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Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]
Sent: 13 June 2011 15:12
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling

Carpet fitters wear knee pads, as do roofers and other similar trades.
They`re
not pretty, personally would avoid wearing them with a skirt.


There are a few chairs/stools that utilise kneeling as an adjunct in
managing
back pain - depends what she is doing on her knees I suppose.....try
Posturite


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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling
Hi and happy Monday
I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.
I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal
posture when
she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.
When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that
are on
their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried
Arco and
the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a lady to
use with
a skirt or suit trousers.
anyone got any ideas?
Jacqui

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Date:    Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:47:13 +0100
From:    Hilary Winch <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Kneeling

Jacqui



What job tasks are they? Are they fairly static? If so - the kneeling stool
which I designed in conjunction with natural living for District nurses may
be helpful...



http://www.naturalliving.co.uk/acatalog/norwich-back-pal-kneeling-stool.html



The whole point of the stool is to reduce the pressure off the knees whilst
kneeling but keeping the back in a good posture as well (the slight tilt on
the stool assists with this aspect)



Hope this helps



Hilary





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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Kneeling



Hi and happy Monday

I am wondering if anyone is aware of anything that can help me.

I have seen a person today who kneels a lot and she has fab spinal posture
when she does. otherwise she has to stoop when standing.

When I have worked with tradesmen in the past and the job demands that are
on their knees they can use gel knee pads in work trousers. I have tried
Arco and the usual places and am looking to find an equivalent pad for a
lady to use with a skirt or suit trousers.

anyone got any ideas?

Jacqui

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