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Re: degree plus Interesting Masters degrees in Mental health at work to consider

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Susan Gorton <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:42:51 +0100

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For anyone who can get day release near London I can very highly recommend the MSc in Organisational Psychiatry and Psychology at Kings. I have just completed (exams in 2 weeks OMG) year one and it has been absolutely brilliant. I apply what I learn every time I get back to wrok - how is the paranoid Personality Disorder getting on today!!

 Its likley to have a name change to Mental Health at work and the key degree to qualify to get on the course is RGN not OH. I dont have a degree to may name having predated everyhting -even my Oh is only a C(ertificate) poor thing

Mental health at work gets very little mention in any OH course and yet it is 40% of most referrals. I have learnt about all the key psychiatric conditions and how to assess for them, what treatments they should be having etc had lessons on everyhting from personality to motivation and Stress at work enough to equip me to set up my own consultancy. The calibre of lecturers is first class - everyone from Adrian Furnham who writes most of the books on Occ Psychology, Rob Briner and the guy who bought EAPs to the Uk amongst many many others.

I was shocked to be the only OHA on the course as this course is just ideal for us really. If in doubt go talk to Gilly Wiscarson, the course director, she is more than happy to give you the low down.

I am doing my research on the impact of  training for managers in an NHS Trust on common mental health problems so watch this space!!

Sue

Susan Gorton   Occupational Health Department Manager   Occupational Health Department, Level 3 Ormond House, 26-27 Boswell Street, London WC1N 3JZ    Mob: 07833294568   Tel: 020 7813 8554   Ext 0247   Fax : 020 7813 8355   Email: [log in to unmask]      From Sept 2010 I am on study leave on Tuesdays throughout the academic year

>>> "Argyle, Ruth (Occupational Health Nurse)"              <[log in to unmask]> 08/06/2011 08:39 >>>
Mmm that sounds wise
Ruth

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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JANE COOMBS
Sent: 08 June 2011 08:14
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree

Dear Lynda

Why don't you do a masters instead?  You probably know all the stuff about OH at an excellent level and to do another two years seems like you are chasing academic moving goalposts (sorry Anne but it is a bit of a mystery to me how everything changes every 5 years or so and we find ourselves stranded with obsolete qualifications).

Or why not go for a safety degree or ergonomics or HR - they would all greatly add to your knowledge and would bring such benefits to your OH practice.

Jane
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:49:49 +0100
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree
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So does this mean that you would
Only have to do 1 year I also have done dip at Warwick
Thanks
Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:16, "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello Anne

It is difficult to comment about courses other than my own as I don't know their specific rules. However, the general principles will be the same. Think of academic courses a bit like going up an escalator in a three story building. Level 1,(also known as level 4) is the first floor and the equivalent of the first year of a university degree. Level  2 (also known as 5)  is the second floor - second year of a degree. The third year is level 3 (also known as 6).

The diplomas of Warwick and Uni Glam are both excellent courses but they are delivered at diploma level which is level 2(AKA level 5) the academic level of the second year of a degree programme. The academic level does not relate to how good courses are just what "floor" in the educational escalator they are taught at. So the short answer is that it is unlikely that you will get exemptions from a course delivered at level 3(6). However, entry to level 3 courses usually requires previous study at level 2 so the diploma would be what would get you into the course; rather like A levels are the entry point to a degree studied straight from school at the age of 18. Don't be disheartened as it does mean that you go straight to the third year of a degree programme. When I first started teaching at the RCN academic credit wasn't given for having an RGN so those people had to do all three years of a degree programme.

Although we have had students from Lincolnshire registering on our programme (we have had students travel from Scotland, Ireland and Wales before now) I suspect that the nearest course to you for face to face teaching would be Leeds Met, give Becky a call. The alternative is D/L at either University of West of Scotland or Robert Gordon University. D/L doesn't suit everyone - it requires a high level of self discipline but it is great option for those who have that.

Best

Anne


On 06/06/2011 22:49, "Anne Newham" <<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello Anne

Could you just clarify for me if this applies if you also studied at Warwick Diploma for the Diploma in OH, as I am planning to further my studies hopefully next year & will be devastated if nothing can be be accredited.

I am based in North Lincolnshire/South Humberside & would ideally need to look for something more local, so sadly London would be too far for me to travel. I have heard nothing but great things about your course & remembering you lecturing us at Warwick a few years ago.

Kind Regards

Anne Newham
OHA
Caritas Ltd

From: <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:16 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] degree

Hello Georgina

The diploma you have completed at Uni Glam is taught at second year degree level - level 2 - (known in some institutions as level5). All the SCPHN courses are currently taught at level 3 (AKA level 6) and therefore it is unlikely that you would be able to make an APL claim as the levels are different. However, on the plus side, you should find degree level OHN study easy  and you will be at a distinct advantage. I have taught several students with the Warwick Diploma in OH and having completed that course puts them at a distinct advantage.

Not sure where in the country you are based. We are based near Waterloo and a number of underground stations if you would be interested in studying with us. If so please contact me off list on this email address.

Best

Anne Harriss
Course Director
LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY


On 06/06/2011 13:24, "Georgina Mastin" <wlmailhtml:<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi,

I wonder if anyone could advise me  the best route to take to obtain a OH degree. I have recently obtained my OH  diploma at the university of Glamorgan and wonder if I can APL what I have  already done and top up to go on and get a degree.

I have found  out that the Robert Gordon university do offer a long distance learning degree  but I cannot APL any of my dip. Is this the case for all university's offering  the OH degree course?

Thanks in  anticipation

Georgie
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